Hunting for the first time, I'm terrified

[FirstHunt]

Am hunting on Monday it.l be the 4th time I've ridden the horse though he has hunted, I've popped over some small jumps in the school but I've never ever jumped a hedge, will I have to jump? if I don't jump am I likely to be left behind massively that's something he really doesn't like. I don't mind popping over small stuff but not huge hedges etc.

She may be a decent rider, but that doesn't affect what she brings to the class vs. money argument!

Lurchers, well good for you for doing something about it, that sort of thing is wrong and I would never support anything like that.

thats fine beer - its for those who think hunting isnt cruel.

the fox was released unharmed. i just want people to see what this "sport" is in reality. im a horsey person, i am going to have my own horse, i spend every weekend at the stables, but i would rather eat my own eyeballs than condone this disgusting practice.

Oh, I heart that woman that saved that fox too. Bloody amazing. Thanks for posting, Vicar.

Sickening that this still goes on because of 'loopholes' in the law.

Pro-hunters know it's bloody illegal - shame on them.

Of course they do. They pretend it is for the 'good' but I have seen grown men blub over a beautiful horse getting injured in this 'sport'. Stupid activity.

The vixen saved by the hunt monitors in that youtube video certainly didn't seem 'sick' or 'old'.

Kind of blows Jade80's theory out of the water.

Nope. Best hunter I've ever seen was give away to my friend.
LineRunner
I don't see what when domestication happens has to do with anything. It's still exploitation. Humans spotted that dogs predators hung round their habitations looking for food. They also noticed that dogs hunted for food, and kept other predators at bay. They exploited these traits to make their lives easier. However scientifically and patronisingly you describe it, it's still exploitation.
Vicar, there is nothing in that video to show that sabs hadn't just released that fox. Those hounds weren't hunting it, they were just milling about. They clearly hadn't just run the fox down. The hunt were just standing around.

That was healthy young vixen in the video?

right saggy....so that horn blowing from the bloke in the red coat means nowt then?

Saggy

You don't understand domestication. You see everything as exploitation when it isn't. There is a wealth of recent archaeological, gelological and genetic information on the prehistory of human and canines.

linerunner the video isnt horrible.

watch it. a hunt monitor saves the young vixen from the hounds and runs off with her.....she certainly didnt look old or sick to me.....

and the huntman blew his little horn to alert others to where it was - bollocks to that argument from saggy im afraid

saggy i really respect you as a poster but on this issue we will have to agree to disagree.

you know you are talking rubbish but you are being careful due to the law. i get it. but that fox was hunted. in november 2012 - that fox was hunted. well after the law changed.

It's an Inhumanely Killing Animals Argument. Millions of animals die Inhumanely every day. I don't remember ever seeing a hunt sab hounding the small children who starve bunnies to death in hutches! Or people who flush goldfish down the loo!

Quite a price range in cars. If they all move, why pay £5000?

vicar I'm looking at the video. Looks illegal hunting to me.

Ah yes, Saggy, the Overton Window argument.

oh saggy - mute argument.

im as against that as i am hunting.
if i come across cruelty in any guise i act on it. i have done several times now.

and the huntman blew his little horn to alert others to where it was - bollocks to that argument from saggy im afraid
Huntsmen blow many different calls. Not all mean "kill the fox"
As an ex hunt servant, I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about.

linerunner - its illegal hunting and there is no disguising that.

i hope very much that the hunt monitor gave that footage to the RSPCA.

i believe they brought a successful prosecution not that long ago for similar...

Saggy - that isn't a valid argument. Hunting is a routinely cruel bloodsport. The cruelty is part and parcel of the 'sport'. And as we've seen, not just cruelty to the wild foxes. Cruelty also to the hounds and even the horses.

It's just basically crap all round. Nice red jackets though. Not.

'hunt servant' - wow.

Do you bow as well?

Do you mean moot?
I am glad you act on cruelty. i think the issue is what you define as cruelty. Take fishing, shooting, trapping, hunting, killing for meat, the milk industry, leather, producing eggs and any one person will have a range of views on which if any of those is cruel.

saggy i really like you and your posts - on this issue we will just have to agree to disagree!

no hard feelings.

but im anti hunting. its cruel.