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Discussion about Charles Spencer's book - Swan Song : Diana, my sister , Beautiful, Beloved, Hunted.

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BasiliskStare · 18/09/2026 13:13

I know there is a thread about the theft of some pre publication editions of this book.
This thread is more by way of a book club discussion about the actual book , the text. Threads will go where they will , but my intention is this is more for me to give my opinion on the book and for others who read it or are interested in the book to join in. I have pre-ordered from Kindle (half price otherwise I may not have 😊) But is only available on September 22nd. So a holding place if you like.

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cheezncrackers · 20/09/2026 09:44

AlexandraCarrington · 19/09/2026 23:56

King Charles refused to let her mother see Diana's body

Possibly there was good reason for that.

Diana hadn't spoken to her mother for four months before she died, so yes there were good reasons.

BasiliskStare · 20/09/2026 11:18

Just to say - I haven't posted because the book isn't actually out yet. It's Sept 22nd (Tuesday). I've pre- ordered on Kindle. I'm actually out Tuesday afternoon , back early evening , but if the book downloads just after midnight , I'll try to read a chapter or so Tuesday morning and post Tuesday evening. I have to say having read the DM excerpts I'm not hopeful , but of course they are going to be the headline grabbing bits - so reserving judgment for now.

I can add nothing re points of law 😊

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bluegreygreen · 20/09/2026 11:21

Thanks @BasiliskStare.

I hope at some point the thread will return to the original purpose of being a book discussion thread, given the multiple other threads there are for general discussion on the topic.

Indigovelvet · 20/09/2026 11:51

The book comes out on Tuesday does it. I want to hear what he has to say!

noonames · 20/09/2026 14:11

OneLilacHedgehog · 20/09/2026 07:12

@noonames I get a legal definition if I just Google hearsay.
It irritates me people using words incorrectly like OCD for someone who just likes a tidy house.
Personally I think in a discussion about do we believe what Charles Spencer said, then the words we use matter.
It is quite clear that what Charles Spencer told Richard kay is not just gossip as you claim. As a historian Charles Spencer presumably has some understanding of the law around hearsay, and told Richard kay due to this understanding

Try “does hearsay have a meaning outside law”. That should help you understand. Obviously the PP was not using the legal definition, given there is no court case for it to pertain to.
Also - I didn’t claim it was “just gossip” fyi. So important not to attribute claims falsely, don’t you think? As a paralegal, I mean.

OneLilacHedgehog · 20/09/2026 14:19

Oh snidey.
The definition you posted included that hearsay meant gossip. I quoted from your comment.

PlotTwistPending · 20/09/2026 14:26

BasiliskStare · 20/09/2026 11:18

Just to say - I haven't posted because the book isn't actually out yet. It's Sept 22nd (Tuesday). I've pre- ordered on Kindle. I'm actually out Tuesday afternoon , back early evening , but if the book downloads just after midnight , I'll try to read a chapter or so Tuesday morning and post Tuesday evening. I have to say having read the DM excerpts I'm not hopeful , but of course they are going to be the headline grabbing bits - so reserving judgment for now.

I can add nothing re points of law 😊

Thoughts and prayers Basil You’re doing a great service for - - -your country- - - Mumsnet. Have you done it since birth?

Also have nothing to add about law, you’ll be glad to know 🙄

(FFS can’t get strike though to work, but you get the gist!)

noonames · 20/09/2026 16:20

OneLilacHedgehog · 20/09/2026 14:19

Oh snidey.
The definition you posted included that hearsay meant gossip. I quoted from your comment.

Posting a screenshot to demonstrate that there is more than one definition of hearsay, and suggesting that another poster was using it in its everyday sense, is not the same as my using any of those definitions. You seem pretty slapdash in your logic and ability to follow a chain of events for a paralegal tbh. Happy to add OhSnidey to my new collection of usernames though 🙏

MyMintSwan · 20/09/2026 20:52

What a disgraceful interview today asking the Earl Spencer why he has written a book about his sister and the king. Such lies fell from his lips as he looked at the dozy interviewer . She was dreadful, it was obvious that money was absolutely the Only reason he had written it , oh and to blacken Charles name. He and Harry should be thrown into the tower. Forever.

MyMintSwan · 20/09/2026 20:55

Disloyalty is often caused by wanting money. Irrelevancy caused by lack of compassion and very short memories.

MyMintSwan · 20/09/2026 21:06

I hope that we Brits refrain from buying the dreadful book written by Earl Spencer. Another moneymaking load of crap simply because he’s in need of cash onto his 4 th wife and more kids than one can imagine. His only course of action is to have another crack at the Royals and his truth is in the garbage on sale now. I wouldn’t believe him if asking him the time I’d have to look at my watch. Such a straight face when answering a question like…. Why are you doing this. Hahaha 30 years later, he’s decided it’s time to try to break the Royal Family and make some cash . What a nice guy 😡😡😡

OneLilacHedgehog · 20/09/2026 21:08

MyMintSwan · 20/09/2026 20:52

What a disgraceful interview today asking the Earl Spencer why he has written a book about his sister and the king. Such lies fell from his lips as he looked at the dozy interviewer . She was dreadful, it was obvious that money was absolutely the Only reason he had written it , oh and to blacken Charles name. He and Harry should be thrown into the tower. Forever.

Nope. Charles Spencer has about £40 million in liquid assets and an art collection worth up to £85 million. He could just sell a few paintings if he needed money.

SeptemberRains · 20/09/2026 21:09

@MyMintSwan
I think the Tower is a tourist attraction now.

SeptemberRains · 20/09/2026 21:10

@MyMintSwan
Also should Andrew be thrown in too?

MyMintSwan · 20/09/2026 21:12

I should imagine he doesn’t wish to sell anything. So it seems his main objective is to bring down the Monarchy. Whatever his reasons I’m absolutely certain it’s all about money.

SeptemberRains · 20/09/2026 21:14

I think his main objective is to wash the RF’s dirty laundry in public. It’s fascinating to watch.

MyMintSwan · 20/09/2026 21:17

Ok,
Reasons for writing a book about his sister 30 years after her death.
Mmmm let me guess
Ah yes he must be bored then, having a great deal to say about our Royals. PLEASE, Do me a favour the guy should be tried for treason to the crown. I dislike him so much and I’m furious about that pathetic excuse for an interview.

SeptemberRains · 20/09/2026 21:17

Is treason still a crime?

SeptemberRains · 20/09/2026 21:19

And surely the King’s own brother should face a similar charge if so. He has done more damage to the RF than anyone else.

MyMintSwan · 20/09/2026 21:27

SeptemberRains · 20/09/2026 21:10

@MyMintSwan
Also should Andrew be thrown in too?

Andrew is living with his title removed and a lifetime of shame. Of course he’s abysmal. Yes probably he should be sent to the tower too. They can keep each other company.

SeptemberRains · 20/09/2026 21:30

@MyMintSwan
Oh good. I thought there for a minute that you had forgotten the member of the RF who is under active investigation for criminal activity.

MyMintSwan · 20/09/2026 21:40

Nooo
I remember most things. I’m a Virgo and my main concern is Justice. Really dislike folks who lie through their teeth. That interview has really riled me. Mostly that Laura Kuenssberg , I couldn’t believe how soft she was with him. Dreadful interview, I wish it had been Piers Morgan because he’d have tied him up in knots.

OneLilacHedgehog · 20/09/2026 22:31

MyMintSwan · 20/09/2026 21:12

I should imagine he doesn’t wish to sell anything. So it seems his main objective is to bring down the Monarchy. Whatever his reasons I’m absolutely certain it’s all about money.

He has sold a few paintings before, so seems quite willing to do so if he needs to raise some cash.

OneLilacHedgehog · 20/09/2026 22:32

I thought she was very tough on him.

MyMintSwan · 20/09/2026 22:38

MyMintSwan · 20/09/2026 20:52

What a disgraceful interview today asking the Earl Spencer why he has written a book about his sister and the king. Such lies fell from his lips as he looked at the dozy interviewer . She was dreadful, it was obvious that money was absolutely the Only reason he had written it , oh and to blacken Charles name. He and Harry should be thrown into the tower. Forever.

To the post that informed me that certain newspapers were in the wrong about Earl Spencer not offering Diana a refuge to escape to. Apparently he offered her a place to stay at Althorp but she refused because she wanted the Garden House. He refused her so as well know she thought she was escaping going with Fayeds son . The rest is history and unfortunately the loss of her will resonate through the ages.

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