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Charles Spencer to publish memoir of Diana

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OccasionalHope · 18/08/2026 18:58

Could be interesting.

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JustAnotherWhinger · 22/08/2026 18:40

OVienna · 22/08/2026 18:36

But I mean - it's one thing for outsiders not to understand the ins and outs of this - I find it hard to believe it wasn't explained to people actually affected by it and I do believe it was explained.

It's not that hard to get your head around.

I think it’ll have absolutely been explained to Harry, and do think there is absolutely a chance that it was assumed Harry understood it and explained it to Meghan.

It seems that Harry’s knowledge of how the British royal family works was grossly over estimated by everyone around it.

That seems to be at the root of the majority of their problems.

canuckup · 22/08/2026 18:42

Coincidence with Harry back in town

Asunciondelaflata · 22/08/2026 18:43

OVienna · 22/08/2026 18:38

Reading the Times articles on the DM trial and the costs - which I find sooo interesting from the perspective of the legal advice angle - did Sherbourne just carry on because they insisted? Or was PH et al misled?

Sherborne doesn't come cheap.
Maybe he thought there was a chance of a settlement, even if they couldn't win?

canuckup · 22/08/2026 18:44

Never explain, never complain

They should be on Harry's fridge

If he needs help understanding it, I'm sure someone will help

My life and these people are in power

Asunciondelaflata · 22/08/2026 18:45

JustAnotherWhinger · 22/08/2026 18:40

I think it’ll have absolutely been explained to Harry, and do think there is absolutely a chance that it was assumed Harry understood it and explained it to Meghan.

It seems that Harry’s knowledge of how the British royal family works was grossly over estimated by everyone around it.

That seems to be at the root of the majority of their problems.

She turned down help from Sophie, which I think is a pity.
She was given a folder with details and information, all categorised.
I've no idea why she remained so uninformed.

JustAnotherWhinger · 22/08/2026 18:51

Asunciondelaflata · 22/08/2026 18:45

She turned down help from Sophie, which I think is a pity.
She was given a folder with details and information, all categorised.
I've no idea why she remained so uninformed.

It is a pity.

I think her comment about not needing help because Harry was helping her is very telling.

Clearly she did not realise that he was/is fucking clueless about stuff.

Asunciondelaflata · 22/08/2026 18:53

JustAnotherWhinger · 22/08/2026 18:51

It is a pity.

I think her comment about not needing help because Harry was helping her is very telling.

Clearly she did not realise that he was/is fucking clueless about stuff.

I think you're right. It was a bit of a whirlwind romance, long distance for a while. Perhaps she didn't quite get the measure of him.

Recklessismymiddlename · 22/08/2026 19:22

JustAnotherWhinger · 22/08/2026 18:40

I think it’ll have absolutely been explained to Harry, and do think there is absolutely a chance that it was assumed Harry understood it and explained it to Meghan.

It seems that Harry’s knowledge of how the British royal family works was grossly over estimated by everyone around it.

That seems to be at the root of the majority of their problems.

If we can understand it and we aren’t royal, why the hell can’t Harry and Meghan. They really should do what the Scandinavians do and insists on Prince and princess school. Then this shit wouldn’t have happened.

Asunciondelaflata · 22/08/2026 19:24

Recklessismymiddlename · 22/08/2026 19:22

If we can understand it and we aren’t royal, why the hell can’t Harry and Meghan. They really should do what the Scandinavians do and insists on Prince and princess school. Then this shit wouldn’t have happened.

She was offered tutoring by Susan Hussey and by Sophie, she turned it down.
You'd think at the very least you'd learn the national anthem of the country you're moving to if you're marrying royalty! It's not that hard.

CoffeeCantata · 22/08/2026 19:43

Asunciondelaflata · 22/08/2026 19:24

She was offered tutoring by Susan Hussey and by Sophie, she turned it down.
You'd think at the very least you'd learn the national anthem of the country you're moving to if you're marrying royalty! It's not that hard.

And the Queen allotted her a sort of equerry (I know that’s usually for men) to help her but she rejected him too. The arrogance is beyond belief - and then to claim she hadn’t been supported!

Asunciondelaflata · 22/08/2026 19:46

CoffeeCantata · 22/08/2026 19:43

And the Queen allotted her a sort of equerry (I know that’s usually for men) to help her but she rejected him too. The arrogance is beyond belief - and then to claim she hadn’t been supported!

So many lies. It's bewildering.

Lunde · 22/08/2026 19:50

Asunciondelaflata · 22/08/2026 19:24

She was offered tutoring by Susan Hussey and by Sophie, she turned it down.
You'd think at the very least you'd learn the national anthem of the country you're moving to if you're marrying royalty! It's not that hard.

The difference is that it is compulsory in Sweden - you can't be a a working royal without undergoing the mandatory orientation programme of mentoring and tutoring that takes 6-18 months. It is a mixture of studies and mentoring that covers things like

  • workings and organisation of the Royal Household
  • Swedish History - military ceremonial and cultural roles
  • the Royal Collection of art etc
  • etiquette and diplomacy
  • foreign languages
  • University studies in political science, government and politics, role of parliament and government, Public Administration at state and local level.

Prince Daniel (former personal trainer and gym owner) did an 18 month programme.
Princess Sofia (former model and reality TV star) did 6-8 months.
Chris O'Neill (works in finance) didn't do the programme and has never been a working royal or had a title. Although he is invited to family events.

Asunciondelaflata · 22/08/2026 19:56

Lunde · 22/08/2026 19:50

The difference is that it is compulsory in Sweden - you can't be a a working royal without undergoing the mandatory orientation programme of mentoring and tutoring that takes 6-18 months. It is a mixture of studies and mentoring that covers things like

  • workings and organisation of the Royal Household
  • Swedish History - military ceremonial and cultural roles
  • the Royal Collection of art etc
  • etiquette and diplomacy
  • foreign languages
  • University studies in political science, government and politics, role of parliament and government, Public Administration at state and local level.

Prince Daniel (former personal trainer and gym owner) did an 18 month programme.
Princess Sofia (former model and reality TV star) did 6-8 months.
Chris O'Neill (works in finance) didn't do the programme and has never been a working royal or had a title. Although he is invited to family events.

I think that's excellent, but in all honesty, it hadn't been needed before.
Diana was brought up on the Sandringham Estate, mixing with the royals. She knew it all. Sophie was very keen to learn and spent time with the late Queen.
It's only Meghan who appeared resistant to learning.

Lunde · 22/08/2026 20:01

CoffeeCantata · 22/08/2026 19:43

And the Queen allotted her a sort of equerry (I know that’s usually for men) to help her but she rejected him too. The arrogance is beyond belief - and then to claim she hadn’t been supported!

I don't know that an equerry is for men? I worked with a guy who had been an equerry to the Queen. An An equerry is a personal assistant and military officer who helps a senior member of the royal family. They manage daily schedules, coordinate public events, and travel with the royal person on official duties.

Anyway - Meghan was apparently "insulted" to be offered the services of Lt Col Nana Kofi Twumasi-Ankrah to assist her

She turned down mentoring from Sophie Wessex/Edinburgh

The Queen also sent the very experienced Samantha Cohen to help HAM who had worked for the rf since 2001 but she quit after the Africa tour

Lunde · 22/08/2026 20:19

JustAnotherWhinger · 22/08/2026 13:48

Exactly this.

Camilla didn’t want to marry Charles back in the day. She caught the husband everyone in their set wanted - Andrew Parker Bowles was the big catch. He was the handsome rich man who made ladies swoon (the man has the gift of the gab to a serious level) and could give an amazing lifestyle, but without the stresses that came with royal life.

Charles was turned down by several women because marrying a future King is nowhere near as fun and glamorous as the movies make it seem, and the ones in the inner circles of his set knew that.

Camilla and APB didn't decide to get married - their hand was literally forced by their parents placing an engagement announcement in the Times in March 1973 without their knowledge and without APB proposing. Like Diana, the couple were unable to back out without causing a huge society scandal. They married 3½ months later - she was 25 and he was 33.

It happened when the Queen Mother had used her influence to get Charles sent on a long naval deployment from February to November 1973 to get him away from Camilla.

I wonder now with the benefit of hindsight whether the Queen Mother also influenced the Parker-Bowles/Shand's in announcing the engagement so that when Charles returned Camilla wasn't available.

CoffeeCantata · 22/08/2026 20:24

Lunde · 22/08/2026 20:01

I don't know that an equerry is for men? I worked with a guy who had been an equerry to the Queen. An An equerry is a personal assistant and military officer who helps a senior member of the royal family. They manage daily schedules, coordinate public events, and travel with the royal person on official duties.

Anyway - Meghan was apparently "insulted" to be offered the services of Lt Col Nana Kofi Twumasi-Ankrah to assist her

She turned down mentoring from Sophie Wessex/Edinburgh

The Queen also sent the very experienced Samantha Cohen to help HAM who had worked for the rf since 2001 but she quit after the Africa tour

@ Lunde

Yes, I think you’re absolutely right about all this. I suspect M is the sort of person who won’t ever accept that other people might know more than her…about ANYTHING!

Newname26 · 22/08/2026 20:31

Recklessismymiddlename · 22/08/2026 14:14

I hope the marriage last but they are both impetuous and impulsive, never a good mix. Im both and reckless (Hence my username), dh isn’t, luckily and calms me down. In my youth and still occasionally (in my 60’s) I still have that streak. It isn’t always for the best. I do at times regret stuff.

It’s no surprise imo that both William and Harry, married who they did. One who wouldn’t rock the boat, and the other who would. Had their mother not died in such tragic circumstances, who knows? I think they’d have married different women imo.

I think W&K are very well matched. I can't imagine him with another woman.

H&M I don't think he'd have married her I think he'd have married someone completely different

Asunciondelaflata · 22/08/2026 20:32

Newname26 · 22/08/2026 20:31

I think W&K are very well matched. I can't imagine him with another woman.

H&M I don't think he'd have married her I think he'd have married someone completely different

I agree 👍🏼

Newname26 · 22/08/2026 20:38

OVienna · 22/08/2026 18:36

But I mean - it's one thing for outsiders not to understand the ins and outs of this - I find it hard to believe it wasn't explained to people actually affected by it and I do believe it was explained.

It's not that hard to get your head around.

I think people tried to explain it to them by they didn't want to listen.

Its well established that Meghan doesn't listen to advisors. So why would she listen to courtiers or family trying to explain?

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