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12 week old rescue pup crying on and off all night when crated

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WTFwasthat · 29/10/2012 08:58

I have been advised to ignore and he will 'grow out of it', but I hardly got any sleep last night as he was barking on and off all night. I didn't go to him this morning until he was having a quiet spell but not sure what to do?

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firstpost · 29/10/2012 09:04

Can you move his crate into your bedroom for a while? Or, I had my husband sleep on the couch near our crated pup for a few days when she first arrived.

Does he need a wee in the night? I think at that age we still let our pup out overnight.

He will grow out of it soon, its a puppy thing :)

Rhinestone · 29/10/2012 09:08

Let him sleep in bed with you and it will stop.

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WTFwasthat · 29/10/2012 09:54

so should i persevere with crate?

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D0oinMeCleanin · 29/10/2012 09:55

I did that with my puppy Rhinestone, he is still there.

You can ignore it and it will stop after a dew days to a week, but I hate this way, or you can move his crate into your room and then slowly move it back to where you want.

Floralnomad · 29/10/2012 09:58

Don't let him sleep in bed unless you want him there all the time . Personally I'd give it a few nights . Go to bed really late and don't put him in until you go to bed . Failing that you could try leaving him a radio that sometimes works . It's early days but if you don't want him upstairs you sleeping near him is the best option , I did that a few times when ours played up then moved away gradually . As has been said before its like having a baby but they just grow up quicker !

D0oinMeCleanin · 29/10/2012 10:00

Puppy's make excellent hotwater bottles in the winter though.

tooearlytobeup · 29/10/2012 10:03

I slept on the floor next to the crate for a few nights . I gradually moved away. So slept on sofa, then eventually out of the room but still downstairs. Took about a week and a half before i got back in my own bed

Floralnomad · 29/10/2012 10:09

Tooearly- ths more or less how long it took me so not too bad .

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WTFwasthat · 29/10/2012 10:50

eurgh! don't fancy sleeping on the settee. don;t really want to encourage him upstairs either. Might have to tough it out!

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WTFwasthat · 29/10/2012 10:51

i tried him in there now while I got my son dressed etc and he yelped his head of. We came downstairs and sat near the crate and he was calm as anything!

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Rhinestone · 29/10/2012 10:55

Well of course i know that means he'll never leave! Is that so bad?

Floralnomad · 29/10/2012 13:40

Have you covered the crate with a blanket/ sheet to make it more cave like ,some dogs prefer that . Sounds like he's jut not used to it yet and loves you so much already that he wants to be with you constantly. We got rid of our crate quite quickly ( it was huge) and used a baby gate to keep him in a certain area he much preferred that . Now at 2 he has the run of a fairly large hallway when we are out and overnight and the baby gate is back on the stairs .

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WTFwasthat · 29/10/2012 15:36

Floralnomad - yes the crate has ablanket over it, not entirely over it. i went out just now and left him in crate with my laptop on itunes!± He yelped when we left but by the time we got back 35 mins later he was quiet. He was so hapy to see us!

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BerryPie · 29/10/2012 16:13

Is there anywhere in the house that is semi-acceptable to you, and where he will settle happily? We didn't use a crate, but wanted our puppy to sleep in the utility room adjacent to the kitchen. She was having none of it, but settled down to sleep under the kitchen table almost as soon as she came to our house. So we let her sleep there for the first week or so. Tbh she soon realised the utility room was nice and safe and secluded and moved in there of her own accord, and two weeks in we started closing the gate at night and there was no protest at all.

So I think a gradual approach can work, too. We didn't need to stay with her, we just let her sleep where she was happy and comfortable. She's 4 months now and a brilliant sleeper, goes from 10pm to 8am without a sound!

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WTFwasthat · 29/10/2012 16:38

i don;t know what to do as we have a crate wihc I was recommended to get. I think she jsut wnat sto be with us and not alone but i don;t want her sleeiung with me and if she has run of lounge she will wee and poo everwyere!

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Floralnomad · 29/10/2012 16:42

I'd persevere getting him to stay downstairs . My boy is quite possessive of me if anyone tries to hug me etc , not nasty but jumps up to get in on the act IYSWIM . If I let him come to bed I doubt my OH would even be allowed in ,let alone anything else .

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WTFwasthat · 29/10/2012 16:45

should I sort of cordon off a part of his crate and mak the medding more snuggled around him iyswim. To make him feel less 'esposed'?

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Floralnomad · 29/10/2012 16:53

TBH that would probably make no difference if its cos he's lonely , he will just have to learn and sadly that means a few disturbed nights . Do you have neighbours to worry about ? If its cos he's crated have you got a downstairs loo that you could stick a baby gate on and put him in there ? It is very difficult when they are not housetrained and you don't want them peeing everywhere. Even now I wouldn't leave mine in the lounge overnight , part of me says he'd stay asleep on the sofa but part of me doesn't trust him not to chew something if he got bored at 3 am . He still chews blankets/ soft toys / slippers etc .

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WTFwasthat · 29/10/2012 21:14

i have warned the neighbours and given hm a couple of spells in there today and only goien to him when he was quiet (which was after about 10 minutes). I think he wil get used to it and it was so helpful when I was bathing my ds this evening knowing that Max was safe downstairs not peeing, pooing or terrorising the cats!

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Lolly7 · 29/10/2012 22:28

It might be worth plugging one of these in next to his cage ...
www.vetuk.co.uk/dog-behaviour-adaptil-dog-appeasing-pheromone-c-837_2/adaptil-diffuser-dog-appeasing-pheromone-dap-diffuser-p-6
Maybe a tshirt or something with your scent on placed inside cage would help.

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WTFwasthat · 29/10/2012 22:41

thankyou. I'm going to leave my dressing gown in there tonight. Am sjhattered so just off to bed after he has been for a last night wee. Wish me luck .....

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Imsosorryalan · 30/10/2012 19:25

Please read up on crate training. Not sure how you are introducing him to sleeping in it all night but it needs to be a very gradual process built up from occasional spells in there with a treat ( 5 mins and you in the same room) to longer spells (20 mins and you wandering in and out) before you can even contemplate overnight. Even then a 12 week old puppy hasn't enough bladder control to go all night and you will need to set your alarm for 3 am to let him out for a wee. You can gradually then set it an hour later etc until you can go the whole night but that process takes up to 2/3 months. If your pup sees the crate as a punishment it will hate it more.
The dogs trust website can guide you more with this. Good luck.

Lolly7 · 30/10/2012 19:32

How was last night?

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WTFwasthat · 30/10/2012 21:16

not sure. my son and i slept in the loft room so couldn't really hear
, but the neighbours didn't complain! He went in there a couple of times today, whined for 5 mins then calmed down

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WTFwasthat · 30/10/2012 21:21

also when i came down this morn he was fast asleep. he had pooed in there on paper but he seemed otherwise ok

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