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12 week old rescue pup crying on and off all night when crated

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WTFwasthat · 29/10/2012 08:58

I have been advised to ignore and he will 'grow out of it', but I hardly got any sleep last night as he was barking on and off all night. I didn't go to him this morning until he was having a quiet spell but not sure what to do?

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Floralnomad · 30/10/2012 21:36

Sounds like its all going well then . BTW I know some people advocate getting up in the night to let them out but mine was housetrained fairly quickly and I never bothered just stayed up later and got up earlier at first . I would have thought that its not worth disturbing him if he's quiet .

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WTFwasthat · 30/10/2012 22:38

i do not intend to get up in night - I know some say to do that but I think that will be reinforcing the yelping and the neightbours say they did not hear a sound last night. TBH if he had been barking I would have heard him from my loft room anyway. I think he is getting used to it. I will defo try to use the crate for short spells inteh day and if he is obvs not liking it I might just pop him in the kitchen where the floors are not carpeted.

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MakeMineACafPow · 31/10/2012 08:24

Its a bit sad that you wont concider getting up in the night Sad. Young puppies do not have the control to last all night, I understand that you don't want to make a habbit of going out during the night but this then has the effect of reinforcing that it is ok to toilet indoors and will make house training so much harder. Surley it will make for a more peaceful nights sleep if the puppy learns that if he barks to go to the toilet that someone will let him go and then he and you can go back to sleep, rather than having to keep barking until he has no choice but to soil his sleeping area. This approach is likely to make him more worried about the crate and cause the vicious cycle to continue. I know its hard to have to get up at first but in the long run it will be worth it and it wont be long before he can last through the night.

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WTFwasthat · 31/10/2012 08:28

it is not that I won't get upto let hmout but I have been told that if they bark and you then respod you are reinforcing that lots of noise= attention.It is a bit confusing

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WTFwasthat · 31/10/2012 08:29

i am wondering if it is just that he is a dog who freaks out when crated? How can I tell?

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MakeMineACafPow · 31/10/2012 08:33

it is hard to know whats best. I would take him out to the toilet but keep contact to a minimum, ie no cuddling, dont talk to him etc, then put him straight back in the crate, and if he still makes noise to ignore him. Although with mine I found he would settle if I sat in the room for about 10 minutes then I could go back to bed. It wont take as long as you think before he is fine with the crate. good luck.

MakeMineACafPow · 31/10/2012 08:42

I don't think there are such a thing as 'dogs who freak out when crated' only dogs who have had bad experiances of crates. Which is why every time he is in a crate it has to be as good an experiance as you can make it, so he associates good things happening when he is in the crate. Give him his meals in it, play games in and out the crate, treats in the crate all the things to make it a happy safe place.

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WTFwasthat · 31/10/2012 08:43

thank you. I am getting confused!

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WTFwasthat · 31/10/2012 08:44

makeMineAcat - that is great advice thankyou. When we pop out today I shall put his fave bone toy chewy thing in there too

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TantrumsIsTheREALPumpkinKiller · 31/10/2012 08:50

Isn't 12 weeks a bit young to not need to go out for a wee all night?

I am not qualified in any way to give advice on this because my dogs sleep upstairs. On the bed. In fact last night there were 3 dogs at the end of my bed, I've got a new short term foster and LittleDog insists on being no more than 10cm away from her at all times

Anyway, IIRC LittleDog was still going out for a wee in the night at that age.
And he is happy to go in his crate when he wants peace and quiet but would have howled the house down if we tried to leave him in it alone downstairs at night.

kitsmummy · 31/10/2012 08:59

I have commented on your other thread but I would definitely be getting up once in the night to let him out for a wee. He's certain to need one at 12 weeks and you could be adding to his distress by not letting him out to have one.

I know what you're going through is hard, but it's pretty standard for puppy ownership.

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WTFwasthat · 31/10/2012 09:27

ok i will put him out for a wee at first holler and then i should put him straight back in crate. what if he barks etcafter that?

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Imsosorryalan · 31/10/2012 15:49

To be honest, I think if you're prepared to take on a puppy then night wakings are part and parcel of that responsibility.
It doesn't mean she will expect it all the time. Hence, waking later and later to take her out will eventually mean she goes through the night.
If you want, wait until the barking stops for a bit then go down 10 seconds later so she doesn't accociate barking with you coming to her

Imsosorryalan · 31/10/2012 15:50

Oh forgot to say, if he barks after wees then you can ignore him as you know it def. isn't the toilet but attention he's after. Wink

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WTFwasthat · 31/10/2012 15:56

ok IMsorry - thank you. He has settled well in there three times today when I was pottering around and when I went shopping. I left a Kong in there and he has got the hang of it now which I think will help. When he comes out I give him a great treat too so he learns to think it is fab Grin It is ony really teh nights that he is a pest!

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