The Idaho Murders

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Has anyone watched on Netflix? I hadn’t really seen much about it apart from the headlines at the time. I’m only half way through but I cannot wrap my head around the two other girls in the house waiting 8 HOURS to call anyone having heard screams and seen an intruder in a ski mask, and even then it was a friend, not the police. What on earth?!?

Why do you think they didn't? Maybe they couldn't be bothered?

Or maybe they were overwhelmingly traumatised and terrified and since you probably haven't been in that situation maybe best not to assume you know what you would do.

I think you can be simultaneously terrified and also socialised to not make a fuss and to doubt yourself.

Like I said, I can’t wrap my head around it, so I don’t have a theory as to why it took so long. I have been in a (different) terrifying situation and sat awake counting the minutes for daylight to come, and with it safety / resolution. It’s not investigating until almost noon that I can’t comprehend.

I don’t think them calling earlier would have made any difference to the outcome, for what it’s worth.

This. They were young, living away from home, naïve, and clearly in shock.

They might have been scared of being in trouble for drinking so much or maybe drug use. I understand why they felt that way, they are very young and in a traumatic situation so maybe didn’t make the best choice.

I struggled with the time line as well, I mean it is crazy they waited so long to call the police.

The whole thing is tragic, my dd is about to go off to uni so this hits close to home.

I hope the psycho who did it is suffering in jail.

Does anyone know if the one that is trending on Netflix is brand new?! I watched a documentary earlier this year but can’t remember what channel (would have been Netflix/prime/paramount) but they seem to be pitching this one as new?!

I think they were just absolutely terrified and couldn't comprehend what was happening. They'd all been out drinking which does impair decision making and may have been under the influence of other substances. They also were awake all night and I'm sure I read that the two girls eventually fell asleep so they probably slept for a few hours.

It’s new. Watching it now.

They kept on mentioning the phrase " a revolving door" referring to their house as regards the comings and goings of friends and boyfriends. Yes I don't understand why the girl who saw him didn't raise the alarm. It was also odd the call to police the next morning. Had they not looked about?

I think they were in shock and total denial. They did look, they couldn’t wake one of them. And i believe the scene was like a blood bath which they must have seen.

I find it even more bizarre that there was never an explanation about why these young people were targeted in the first place.

But a lot of American Netflix documentaries leave me asking more questions than there are answers. Unless it's just me that is missing something.

Another example was Steven Avery - Making a Murderer. I have watched this at least four times now but still have more questions that weren't addressed.

Knocking down the house was odd to me too. Let’s hope that evidence wasn’t missed.

my understanding from the prime documentary (that i watched after the netflix one and thought was better) was that the surviving housemates didn’t see any of the murdered housemates and had rung some friends to come round as they were freaked out. one of the friends was a man who went upstairs and saw what had happened but he tried to protect the girls from seeing the bodies. he told them to call 911 and this is why the call is quite unclear as the girls knew something bad had happened but not exactly what had happened as they hadn’t actually seen the crime scene but couldn’t get hold of their housemates by phone .
I think they had heard some noises, seen a possible intruder, but party house, everyone drunk, late at night so unclear but they hid out in the basement probably tried to convince each other it was ok eventually falling to sleep for a few hours.

I've seen the prime one and don't feel I need to see the Netflix one too, it was very harrowing. I can understand why the girl who saw him didn't call the police, she was very drunk and confused. I don't think anyone can really know what they'd do in a situation like that until they have lived it.

I don't think they know as the killer hasn't said why. Speculation he was rejected by one of the girls and was stalking them, which seems plausible.

I think they were afraid/had been drinking, but also their house was a party house, with people in and out all the time. I think they thought that the guy looked strange, but it didn’t for a second cross their mind that he had killed their house mates.

I think one of the reasons they were targeted was because they were a lot of things that he wasn’t, popular, loads of friends, having a great time. It’s an absolutely horrific event.

This case is so harrowing, I couldn’t wrap my head around any of it when it was all headline news.

I think the girls were probably too drunk to think straight, and it probably didn’t enter there heads he was a murdered. At best, he was a weirdo from a party but, at worst, a burglar. The next morning, they probably just thought they’d been winding each other up and hit about the creep and thought there housemates were asleep after a late night.

It is so heartbreaking though, I really feel for the poor guy that found them. It’s horrible for their families that theyll never understand why too.

Followed the case at the time when they had not caught the killer yet and watched both documentaries. My only real thoughts on it are what a waste of life and potential and wondering if whether BK the killer had had earlier intervention it could have been avoided or not?

Yes I think the stalking is it. One of them, I think Kaylee told people she thought someone was watching/stalking her. His phone records show he often used to come to Moscow.

It makes sense that it was the boy who’d seen more. But didn’t they ring him because they couldn’t wake her up? But maybe that meant by knocking on her door?

I think the police chief said the covers had been pulled over the two girls in the bed after they had been stabbed. I also seem to recall the survivor girl said she had tried to wake one of the dead girls but she wasn't breathing.

That's not a failing of Netflix, no one apart from the killer knows why he did it and likely never will especially as he's now saying he didn't do it

I couldn’t get my head round the timeline at all, and even if they had not called police I was surprised they had not called or messaged their parents to say they were worried and not sure what to do.

He had been 23 times before. He was obviously observing patterns.