Born Famous C4

[JaneJeffer]

Anyone watching? I don't think spending a week in Leeds will have much impact on Phoenix!

I can't stop looking at Mel B'a face. It's so plastic looking.

I can’t believe she left the house where we she was supposed to be staying!

Phoenix seems a nice lass. I didn't recognise Mel B. She looks like a completely different woman to the one I remember.

I wonder why she hadn't seen her grandmother since she was little but she was still able to call her up to get her.

This girl is coming over as a right brat but underneath it you can see she’s a nice girl

Phoenix hadn’t seen her grandma for a long time while Mel B was married and estranged from her family. She’s now divorced and reconciled with her mum and sister.

I don't see her as bratty at all. She seems like a nice down to earth lass.

God, I used to drink in that Hyde Park pub on the corner back in the 80s.

I preferred last weeks one with Gordon Ramsay, anybody?

She seems a nice girl. Very chatty.

Mel's sister looks great.

I didn't see Gordon Ramsey but I'm not a fan.

I didn't realise this wasn't the first episode. I'll look for the Gordon Ramsey one on catch up.

@Inappropriatefemale i agree. He came a cross as a decent young guy

Is she staying with her grandma or her auntie? I can see why she or they would want to of course but then why for her to stay with a stranger in the first place? Wonder what happened

He totally did, however what I didn’t like about Gordon was when Jack said that he wouldn’t have been able to get away from that area and Gordon got a bit rowdy and swore, and spoke loudly, and Jack got embarrassed and I got the distinct impression that Gordon has went on about this before, Gordon thinks that because he got away from there then anybody else should be able too and that annoyed me because how many people are genuinely talented in the same way as a Michelin starred chef? It sheds some light on what Gordon thinks of the ‘little people’, that we all just didn’t try hard basically!

I don't really get the point of these programmes to be honest

Oh yes Gordon’s attitude at the end when Jack was like I really want to help these people who are a lot less fortunate than me

Yeah and I wonder what all the lovely people, who helped Jack out, thought of Gordon when he said those things?!

Doesn’t Gordon look so old, and his hairdo was that of a young man’s, even his old cooking lecturer made a comment about that!

Phoenix seems like she could fit in anywhere.

Mel's clothes must have cost thousands but they look like she bought them off a market stall.

Is Phoenix Eddie Murphy’s daughter? or is that the other one?

Yeah she does seem like she'd fit in anywhere

I think she is his daughter?

That's the middle girl. I had to look it up www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwiatPWVrP7jAhUcSxUIHQB6CnoQzPwBCAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpeople.com%2Fparents%2Fmel-b-three-daughters-made-with-love%2F&psig=AOvVaw20DCL1IxdkOi7xZVUxGRfX&ust=1565734095783290

people.com/parents/mel-b-three-daughters-made-with-love/ proper link I hope!

Thanks JaneJeffer

Watched both and thought they seemed like very nice, well rounded young people. More mature and insightful than their parents.

I agree, the parents did not come across well at all, in either episode. Just no empathy for anyone who is not able to “make it” like they have. And Mel B dressed in that godawful outfit at the end which seemed calculated to make it clear that she Did Not Belong There Anymore. Their kids seemed much more down-to-earth, polite and empathetic in comparison.