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New thread to discuss the American Moms so we don't get confused/derail the UK one.

Kaiser has been taken from jenelle

Just turned the telly on and it was Tyler and Kate's episode where they chose Brandon and Teresa and butch and April could not of been less supportive.

They just look so young it made me really really sad

I think they were so brave

I'm seriously hoping that kaiser does not go back I'm glad he is out of there.

Does anyone know if David's ex wife has spoken about letting him have their daughter, over my dead body would a child of mine be willingly handed over to that man!

Can only hope their daughter is safe

What's happened to kaiser ? X

I read he's been removed from Jenelles care by the child protection services after the incident with David killing the dog, and he's been picked up by Nathan's mum?

Brilliant news.
He will be much better with his dad and grandma

Wonder why barb never gets involved with kaiser ? X

I think Barb didn't get involved because Nathan was already trying to get him. I'm glad he's safer now. I hope the other children are rescued too.

I think.with jace,jenelle was a lot younger ,there was no.dad involved, it was before the moms were making big money, so Janelle had no money,no home and was using drugs, and didn't even try to parent Jace, Kaiser was different she had a nice home ,money, and Nathan was involved and there have been long periods of time where Janelle and Barbara didn't see each other, Barbara has effectively been Jace,s parent since day one it's more complex with Kaiser .

Nathan was no masterpiece either, but he's probably better than David.

Those poor kids.

Oh definitely yesiam I don't think Nathan's covered himself in glory as a parent but I think he loves his son and out of the two (himself and Janelle he's the better parent for now anyway)

I feel so sorry for this wee boy, from day one he has saw and heard too much. This latest incident with the dog/Kaiser being taken away must be so confusing for him.

She doesn't have Ensley now either, apparently she's with a friend as CPS were going to take her otherwise.

Sad it took the death of the dog to get the kids moved out. Hope the girls are safe and Jenelle sees sense.

Maryssa and Ensley have been removed. They don't have any of the kids. This is a very worrying time for Jenelle as abusers are most dangerous when they are losing control.

Is killing the dog not a crime in itself? Has David not been charged with anything?

I've read she is with Ensley at a friends, I hope that's true - apparently law enforcement won't go near their land becuase of the risk of his weapons

Yes it's sad it took the death of a dog and I'm not down playing that in any way but it could have been the death of a child ,hopefully this will be the wake up call?

From what I've read today, they don't have any of the children, (good), but went to a visitation center to see the girls and David was made to leave.

How confusing for the girls to have to see their parents at a center, Kaiser will just assume he's on visits to his dad but who actually has the girls?

Jenelle was always a train wreck but David has ruined her life. No job, no kids and probably nothing in her life apart from the animals on "the land".

I watched an episode today this weeks? Where kailyn,s sister had her baby shower that.kaillyn, has been organising for weeksher sister could not have been less interested in kailyn s advice .

I think David's Mum has the girls.
I've seen things saying law enforcement officers (I'm assuming that means the Police?), won't go to the land because of all the weapons he has.
No idea how true any of it is.
I hope they don't get the kids back, I could see it ending up in a Chris Benoit situation.

God what a horrible situation I hope he is not allowed near any of those kids the guy is a psychopath - I'm assuming jenelle not made any kind of statement yet?

Jenelle has made a statement, at least she has about Kaiser. She said something along the lines of his Grandmother picked him up from daycare but she hasn't had anything from a judge to say that he can't be returned to her so she's going to go to court to get him back.

I really hope this is a wake up call for her.

@MaHeidsGouping That's so true, and typical of an abusive relationship for the abuser to purposely isolate their partner so they have nothing outside the relationship to turn to. He convinced her to live remotely, tried to alienate her from her mother, tried his best to get her off the show (her source of income!).

Perhaps this will be educative for some young women watching about how these bastards operate.

He ticks almost every abusive partner box. I remember an episode last year I think when he was still on the show and he had his hand on Jenelles shoulder and was looking at her and it literally made my blood run cold. Something about it just screamed danger. I've only ever had the feeling once before with a friends colleague and he turned out to be a serial rapist.