Celeb Big Brother Thread 7 - The CBB audience is sponsored by Simon & Garfunkel

[AnneEyhtMeyer]

• The Sound of Silence...

In other news... you can't always get what you want - we have a shopping list but no parmesan!

I'm sure 2 of those are achievable

Can't trans people find love then?

She's saying she was marked out as the 'runt of the litter', so playing the victim again!

I don’t particularly like Matthew Wright but he’s giving her a harder time than expected!

Surprise surprise!

Funny how it's ok for her to be 'phobic' of drag queens but she can't cope if anyone appears to be 'transphobic'.

at Matthew Wright using the term 'natal women' rather than just women.

At least he didn't say cis!

Natal is preferable to cis in my opinion. It still has transwomen as a category of woman, which I don't like, but at least it doesn't claim that females agree with their "gender identity"

I had to put it on when I saw MW was being less than eggshellish

Actually IW is making some good points!

IW agrees with third spaces!!
Do you saga? I'm sure you've probably answered that before but I can't remember

No exclusives then.....

I think she's been coached on what to say/how to come across. I don't believe she is being genuine. I can't take anyone who thinks they are 'the new suffragettes' seriously unfortunately.

Her true colours well and truly shone whilst she was in the house how ever!

Not exactly worth the wait though 🙄

Has anyone actually read the article Rachel has written whilst she's in the house?

The master manipulator thing didn't really happen, did it?

Also the phobia is explained as (the more reasonable) discomfort with how people might confuse transwomen with men in drag. But that's not a phobia at all - it's a principled issue. It's justifying India's ludicrous behaviour post facto but we were told it was a fear, and it very clearly isn't.

It was interesting that the questions were written down on paper rather than on autoque so IW and rest of panel couldn't read them

Also, could be that the questions were changed at last minute

Also it was good to see Stanley Johnson actually challenge India a bit.

I 'm thinking IW has those eye-bags through lack of sleep reading MN for two days.

Ooh what did Stanley have to say?

Also the phobia is explained as (the more reasonable) discomfort with how people might confuse transwomen with men in drag

That would have made for an interesting discussion - I wonder if that discussion ever took place in the house?

India's reaction to the drag act was really awful. It would have been much better if she'd watched and maybe just tried to have that conversation. She certainly didn't help herself.

It’s women who should be complaining about drag. After all it’s US who’re being parodied. Tbh I don’t like drag particularly, but I avoid it 🤷‍♀️

I find men who genuinely believe they are women because they like stereotypically female things more offensive than drag queens.

Stanley just said that Rachel had been decent to India. India started to crank up about misgendering in this famous article Rachel has written. And I think she slagged Rachel off at the start of her interview, but it wasn't exactly a grand unveiling of the secret power in the house.

Ah. Glad I didn't add to the viewing figures for nowt then.

Just watching it now on +1. I’m amazed that Big Brother main show neglected to show any of the dreadful manipulation that IW suffered at the hands of the other housemates. It’s almost like IW isnt being entirely honest.....

Here's a thread on Digital Spy where someone's transcribed the first part of the piece
forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2263995/india-on-mathew-wright-transcript#latest

I thought India came across better there than on CBB. She had some quite feminine hand gestures, which ironically put me in mind of Courtney but I agree, she seems to have been very heavily coached. I also feel that rather than misgendering, she has misremembering issues.

I've read RJ's piece too. Notihng new there apart from missing knickers from the tumble dryer, but I really don't see why she mentions the bra cup sizes of both Ashley and Jess and if she wanted to deflect attention away from her own body, why not take a one piece swimsuit in with her rather than a bikini?

On balance I don't believe India that she was pushed and pushed to talk about her transition and into taking off her bra and exhibiting herself. She's a strong enough character to Just Say No.