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BROADCHURCH mon 9pm itv thread 2

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DuelingFanjo · 16/04/2013 12:03

Is it ok for me to start a new thread.

Can anyone tell me why Ellie says about Will Mellor's character:

"if you go into the bookshop in town all his books are in there"?
he is KNOWN to the police for this, plus the petty convictions, vehicle theft and conspiracy to defraud, they say in EP 4. So why is he allowed to write and sell these books?

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chartreuse · 18/04/2013 16:51

But just because the sister was asking for money (she is desperate if she has bailiffs taking her household goods) doesn't mean she doesn't have valuable information. I just think Ellie should have put more pressure on her, rather than assuming she was bluffing.

I also think the idea of Danny/Tom blackmailing an adult is a bit ridiculous. I have an 11 yr old boy and looking at him and his friends, that seems pretty far fetched.

Def think Steve has a connection to Sandbrooke though.

I think Mark is v shifty, but if you look back to the opening of the 1st episode where he's breezily chatting to everyone he passes, he would have to be psychopathic to strangle his own son at 3am and then appear to have not a care in the world at 8.30. His conversation in the van with Nige seems to me to refer to his tryst with the hotel owner.

I'll be fed up if it's Joe he's played a pretty peripheral role in the whole story.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful · 18/04/2013 16:57

I'm sure Mark knows something. In the first episode he seemed convinced Danny was ok when the body was found. Almost like he knew something a bit shady had happened but thought Danny wasn't involved.

I bet Mark saw Danny arrive in late the night he died, probably after poaching with Nige. Mark thought Danny went to bed but Danny went out again (at about 3am).

I think Danny went to see the Vicar and the vicar did it.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful · 18/04/2013 16:58

Or maybe he went to see Steve and Steve did it, I really haven't got a clue

Spiritedwolf · 18/04/2013 17:03

About the last episode... Rory ... er... the vicar, said to The Doctor er police detective Tenant... that the boy had threatened to say that he'd been touched by him if he handed over the laptop. Did he threaten that? I missed it if he did. If he didn't, then.. why did the vicar say that?

That said, looking at it from a story writing pov, I can't see the whole paedophile priest storyline being the right one. Its too cliche, and we had the 'possible paedo' red herring in the Squib Janitor newsagent chap. I do think that he probably saw something (at night looking out from the church) or has been told something confidentially, he does seem to know something he's not sharing. Of course he might have had a motive other than the abuse thing.

I hope its not Ellie's husband... though given that he has yet to have a whole episode dedicated to him being under suspicion and finding out his backstory... its definately possible. I reckon Garrow er... the boy's father or the Psychic, but I don't think PQ or her son have been totally ruled out either.

Why was the body placed on the beach, DT might have been too crass for Ellie when he said there was a perfectly good cliff there... but he was right. Did the person who placed him on the beach (not necessarily the killer) regret the death and want to place him gently? Or did they not realise he was dead when they decided to move him, but then once they realised he was dead they put him on the beach?

What was that money from? drugs, blackmarket stuff like diesel, blackmail... and what's in those emails? And the skateboard, why did she take it?

MadBusLady · 18/04/2013 17:04

Yes, didn't we see a sequence at some point when Mark went and comforted Danny crying in his room at night? That could have been after Mark got back from seeing Becca, so about 1-2am. So something had clearly already happened to upset Danny and Mark knew about it - and that's what he was referring to in his conversation with Nige. But then Danny went out again.

So on that basis yes, Mark knows something, he has a vague idea of what a motive would be, but doesn't know who exactly did it. Except he did seem to be fairly certain Nige didn't do it, cos he reacted totally calmly when Nige called to say he'd been arrested (totally different from his first reaction when he heard about Jack's criminal record).

Spiritedwolf · 18/04/2013 17:11

I wouldn't necessarily assume the money was Danny's just because it was in his room. On programmes with search dogs, they often find things in the children's bedrooms put there by adults.

LIZS · 18/04/2013 17:12

Would the tide not have come in between 3am and part way through sports day ? We've no way of knowing that he was on the beach immediately after the opening shot of his hands dripping. If his body was brought by boat some time had elapsed in between so events may not be closely connected.

MandragoraWurzelstock · 18/04/2013 17:24

They said the tide would be in soon at the start, but the tents somehow stayed up for several days/weeks. That is bothering me.

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DuelingFanjo · 18/04/2013 17:27

see, there is a vague connection between Joe and mark.

Joe is from Barry in Wales. in The first or second episode Ellie tells DT that Mark's mother is in Wales. Connected? Swapped at birth?

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MrsSalvoMontalbano · 18/04/2013 18:59

This thread gets better and better MadBusLady and DuellingFango you are especially dedicated on our behalf - like others, my head is exploding and am grateful to those who are teasing out all the clues, just verysad that come Tuesday we shall never again see the like of this thread

AuntieMaggie · 18/04/2013 19:05

I thought the significance of the clocks stopping was because it was the time Danny died, like a spiritual thing...

UpTheFRIGGinDuff · 18/04/2013 19:14

That's what I thought....they stopped just to emphasise the time Danny died...

BOF · 18/04/2013 19:17

Going back to the point one clever MNer made in the previous thread, what happened to basic police procedure? Computer work, phone records, investigating why the clocks had stopped?

MandragoraWurzelstock · 18/04/2013 19:20

It's quite hard to actually stop a clockwork clock. Does anyone even have them these days?

montage · 18/04/2013 19:29

I thought that when Mark comforted Danny (and said sorry to him), that was a memory but one episode review referred to it as a dream?

montage · 18/04/2013 19:32

V impressed by having David tennant and Olivia Coleman in someone's house!

Did you see the interview where Olivia Coleman described what happened when they were filming and some passing motorists spotted David Tennant?

I fear I would do the same

BOF · 18/04/2013 19:43

Ah, that was great, montage, thanks.

aloiseb · 18/04/2013 19:50

This may have been covered in 1st thread ( no time to look - consider 1h a wkquite enough to give to Broadchurch; it's not that good) but why is someone who is potentially involved in the case being detective for it?
Are the police so short of staff that they can't tell her to go away and stay away, or is Ellie's intimate local knowledge considered an advantage in this sort of case?

BOF · 18/04/2013 20:12

Bit of both, I think, aloise.

montage · 18/04/2013 20:16

There is also an on location interveiw with them

Just thinking when Pauline Quirke says everyone has a secret, everyone's secret has pretty much been discovered apart from Ollie and Joe's now.

Ollie is the only one presented as not having a secret which is fairly suspicious in itself in Broadchurch.

BOF · 18/04/2013 20:29

Good point, montage. The little weasel. I don't trust him now...

UpTheFRIGGinDuff · 18/04/2013 20:50

Yeah,he's way to nice...
also,it keeps saying the whole community will be rocked,and he's connected to quite a lot of people,including Ellie...

It'd better be a good backstory/motive though,because I can't think of a decent one for him ATM.

cornyponydash · 18/04/2013 21:12

ellie's secret has not been discovered

also aussie landlady has gone quiet

teejwood · 18/04/2013 23:07

I am LOVING all the theories!!

Have read that Joe is the main suspect, but is that mainly because his secrets haven't been unveiled as yet? I can see that he once lived in a town where a child was raped and died, but there was no sexual violence towards Danny - so if he was guilty of the former then the latter would not be his MO, surely? Also, I can see he isn't completely honest with Ellie regarding what the boys are up to etc, but does that make him a killer? And was his secret the simple fact that he was keeping secrets from Ellie? In addition, I can't help but feel that if an experienced paramedic was going to kill someone they may know how to do it in a way that didn't leave any traces/clues - even strangulation marks. I can see that in dramatic terms, though, Ellie's husband would be a big reveal.

Also, re Ollie

teejwood · 18/04/2013 23:26

Oh - the other thing that I noticed - it's probably nothing - but since the start of the series most of the publicity shots of the "whole" cast have always seemed to be missing one character - but there is another figure shadowed in the SOCO tent, who you can't see.

Make of that what you will

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