BROADCHURCH mon 9pm itv thread 2

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Is it ok for me to start a new thread.

Can anyone tell me why Ellie says about Will Mellor's character:

"if you go into the bookshop in town all his books are in there"?
he is KNOWN to the police for this, plus the petty convictions, vehicle theft and conspiracy to defraud, they say in EP 4. So why is he allowed to write and sell these books?

I don't know if anyone's said this before, but hasn't will mellor psychic man been done for car theft in the past?

Could that be how he knows about the pendant, because he's the one who pinched it from the car?

on the other thread someone has suggested that perhaps the phone Tom was deleting messages on was Danny's phone not his. So the texts were from Danny's mum.

or.... was it someone else's phone and someone else's mum?
Maybe PQ isn't Nigel's mum, maybe she's Joe's mum! Maybe she's Tom's mum!?

Am I taking this too far round windy paternity/maternity bends!?

Yes, I have never been able to understand why Ellie didn't pursue her sister the divulge the information she said she had. Especially later with the link to the boat.

Because the sister asked for money and when Ellie refused, the sister offered her information in return for money so Ellie didn't take her seriously.

I said way down on the last thread that it's Olly - but I admit, I do think we're supposed to think it's Joe.

The paintballing trip is definitely the key to why they fell out. I think Tom threatened to tell his mum about something because she's in the police.

Haven't read whole thread, but I think the vicar is the killer. He me toned being insomniac for 6-7 years, and the previous child murder at Whitby mentioned was also around that time. He also knew that the newsagent was innocent.

Have I asked this before.... I'm beginning to forget!!

Where did Ollie's Dad go?

Ellie said that Ollies dad left her sister a couple of years ago. Don't know where he went.

Oooh maybe they murdered him because he was a twat, and Danny found out!

Another thought we had last night, maybe Joe had an affair, and is now in best behaviour mode? That might explain slight tension between him and Ellie and her slightly over-compensatory "we're very happily married" schtick.

OR Ellie did.

Whitby murder was 15 yrs ago, I think. Could be wrong.

I feel like watching it all again from the start, I'm sure it would read differently second time round. Is it a novel, or original screenplay?

Oh Mad - that was my thinking! Maybe Ellie's sister is an alcoholic and met the vicar at AA meeting, confided she was getting absused by her DH - Vicar helped (possibly in drunken haze) to kill him (maybe Ollie helped too). Then at the paintballing or poaching - they came across his dumped body - recognised him (clothing/ jewellery?) and the story has unravelled. It could be possible, that they didn't mean to kill Ollie's Dad & they called Joe to see if he could save his life (he didn't tell Ellie as it would be prison for her sister & nephew)...SO, Danny found out & told Tom he was going to police - blackmailed Tom for a bit, then Tom confided in his Dad who killed Danny to keep it all secret.

Disclaimer: This is pretty far fetched

"Ellie is the main character and the most sympathetic, so I think the denouement must be about her / have a profound effect on her. I think her family will be destroyed by it - even if Joe/Tom didn't kill Danny, they are very involved in some way. "

Yes, And it's going to be great to see Olivia Colman see that and see her fight David Tennant to protect her family. Which hopefully won't kill him.

(imagines Ellie failing to calling 999 as Alec collapses since he's the only one that knows what Tom has done - Homeland VP style).

I didn't think the sister who turned up asking for money, was the sister who owns the newspaper.

Or have I missed something?

If you own a newspaper and have some info abotu a crime, you wouldn't need to get money off your family you would put the info in the paper and sell more copies.

No, the scrounging sister is just Ollie-the-cub-reporter's mum.

The scrounging sister is Rainie off Eastenders not the newspaper lady.
I think she'll be back as she's too famous to just be in it for a couple of minutes.

I NEED to know who did it.

Ellie's house in the series actually belongs to the parents of a friend of mine (they are remarkably unbothered by having a pretending to be drunk David Tennant at their dining table) and I have interrogated him thoroughly to see if they were able to discover any clues but alas there are none. He did say though that the tatty walls were like that already as his parents were in the middle of decorating and that was written into the script later on, if that answers the person further up thread who was wondering why it'd taken Ellie's husband so long to do the decorating. ;)

Oh wow

DT in your dining room

DT's actual bottom on one of your chairs

Oh NOOOO! I was building another whole theory around the lack of decorating. Good insider knowledge.

I've now settled on, Olly (possibly with help of the other blokier blokes, and possibly by accident) killed his deadbeat dad, somehow or other this was discovered on the paintballing trip, and Danny somehow died because he threatened to spill. The Vicar knows about dead deadbeat dad because he saw something from outside the church.

OR

Olly's dad is lurking in the countryside somewhere threatening/blackmailing/making trouble for Ollie and his mum. It was him who PQ saw on the boat (it's his boat, after all). But not sure how that links to Danny's death.

I'm firmly of the belief that none of the sympathetic characters had anything to do with it.

Except Joe and Tom. The vicar knows who did it, Tom thinks he knows but doesn't, or maybe does,

I still think it's Steve

I think it has to be one of the four in the waves dream sequence,

mark, Vicar, Nige or the Vicar.

woops - two vicars, I mean Steve.

I think the only person it can't be is the black boyfriend on account of wanting to avoid stereotyping wot I flagged up.

DF - you've got the vicar in there twice.. Is that a big clue?