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BROADCHURCH mon 9pm itv thread 2

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DuelingFanjo · 16/04/2013 12:03

Is it ok for me to start a new thread.

Can anyone tell me why Ellie says about Will Mellor's character:

"if you go into the bookshop in town all his books are in there"?
he is KNOWN to the police for this, plus the petty convictions, vehicle theft and conspiracy to defraud, they say in EP 4. So why is he allowed to write and sell these books?

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FreedomOfTheTess · 16/04/2013 12:09

You can't stop someone writing and selling books can you?

LittleAbruzzenBear · 16/04/2013 12:26

Ok, last night's episode; Nigel, we know who he is now and there is something not right there, understandably, however, doesn't make him the killer. It seems to keep going back to Tom, Ollie and the Vicar. Poor Ellie. I really hope at the least Tom didn't hurt Danny.

LittleAbruzzenBear · 16/04/2013 12:40

Tom, Joe and Vicar, that should say. I would be surprised if it was Ollie the reporter!!

Ujjayi · 16/04/2013 12:48

Ollie's involvement doesn't strike me as likely either. The vicar has appeared dodgy from the start - nervy and unsettled. Although, as a recovering alcoholic perhaps that's all part of the issue.

Have all cast members had a secret revealed? Because my theory (bearing in mind I had a mere 3.5 hours sleep last night) is that if everyone else has had a secret revealed then the one who hasn't is the one what did it

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DuelingFanjo · 16/04/2013 13:03

it must be his dad then... no - his mum?
His dad's secret is the affair. His mum has no secret. I recon it's a paternity thing.

Thing is, who believed Danny's dad when he said he'd only done it once (the affair thing)? I recon there's more to it than that. Also Danny's mum said that she had only ever slept with Danny's dad but I am not convinced for some reason. Hmmmmm.

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DuelingFanjo · 16/04/2013 13:06

What about the IT teacher who had to leave because all he did was sit there giggling to himself - leaving the way clear for the vicar to teach the IT class? Presumably he would have had to have been checked out before he could teach? Not that this makes him immune to being dodgy.

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NorthernLurker · 16/04/2013 13:06

i think the comment by Ellie that ' you know what's happening in your own home' is actually a red herring meant to lead us in to thinking that Joe is involved.

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DuelingFanjo · 16/04/2013 13:13

answering my own question from earlier: Joe was a paramedic.

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Northumberlandlass · 16/04/2013 13:16

Someone at work has just said that Joe Miller & Vicar are having an affair. Danny found out, told Tom which caused them to fall out. Danny got murdered after threatening to reveal all!

This couldn't be right, could it ?

Ujjayi · 16/04/2013 13:37

Wow! That's some theory Northumberlandlass. I think we were meant to assume that something was going on between Vicar and Beth but has seemed less likely as time has gone on. Perhaps he and Joe have been getting it on?

I have never been so stumped by a drama. I can usually suss it within at least an episode or two.

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DuelingFanjo · 16/04/2013 13:45

Blimey - maybe!
Joe moved to broadchurch 13 years ago, so he's a relative outsider compared to the rest. He met her through work.

Does the vicar live in the church - he seems to be there a lot at night.

the 'I know men who could rape you' comment from PQ - a little odd given what we know now?

Re the phone (not the smart phone) Jack said it was beeping at the bottom of the bag, could have been beeping to say the battery was in need of charging?

Was the murder in Whitby (15 years ago) a complete white herring? Is the 15 years important? Lots of things seem to have happened 15 years ago.

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TimothyClaypoleLover · 16/04/2013 13:51

DuelingFanjo - I was just about to say the same thing about the PQ rape comment a couple of weeks back. That is very odd given the way PQ is now being seen as a victim of her husband and supposedly ruled out.

greenhill · 16/04/2013 13:53

I agree with ujjayi most of the cast have had secrets revealed over the last few episodes. It must be time for the spotlight to be turned on to Ellie Miller's family (sister possibly saw something and has debt, so may be involved in something criminal, Ellie's husband and son have secrets they've kept from her, her nephew (Ollie) is linked to both sets of secrets too)

We haven't seen much of the police procedural aspect of the case, maybe there will be a big meeting and a light bulb moment; unless Tom's emails and texts have just given Alec Hardy all the answers...

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DuelingFanjo · 16/04/2013 14:04

When Ellie's son is asking his dad how long someone who killed someone would get in prison his dad says '20 years, why are you asking me all this?' then the son says 'I miss him dad' yet he says in a later episode he didn't like him. The dad seems genuinely worried about why he is asking but not in a 'he knows I did it' kind of way.

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LittleAbruzzenBear · 16/04/2013 14:09

That's a good theory Northumberland. It hadn't crossed my mind, but makes sense.

Hardy found something in the emails, he got cross and couldn't believe whatever it was he had missed.

montage · 16/04/2013 14:10

I am very confused about which clues are clunkier-than-expected foreshadowing and which are double-bluff red herrings masquerading as foreshadowing.

Especially the "in your house" moments last night.

I thought the scene with Alec and the journalists was very sad and done really well though.

LittleAbruzzenBear · 16/04/2013 14:18

Yes, I liked that scene with the journo's too.

I can't see that it is anyone outside of the three left though (Tom, Joe and the vicar). We know the vicar goes to AA meetings, but we know he has another secret and we don't know what is going on with Joe and Tom. The rest of the town was linked to Danny and/or his family and had their secrets revealed, as others have said. I hope it isn't child abuse involved.

Ellie made that comment to Joe that he still hadn't painted their room and what has he been doing for the last six months....

nokidshere · 16/04/2013 14:23

I am almost certain that it has to be be Ellies family that are involved somehow. Remember in the first episode Tom was deleting all the messages from his phone and pc..we haven't yet found out what they were.

Am liking the Joe/Vicar scenario though!

AvonCallingBarksdale · 16/04/2013 14:27

Hello. Mind if I join the thread? Am loving Broadchurch, and although I'm desperate to know whodunnit, I don't want it to end!! I've been wondering about the wake after Jack Marshall's funeral when Alex Hardy was sitting on the stairs talking to Tom Miller and then Joe Miller appeared and put a swift end to teh conversation. Was he worried that Tom might reveal something??

MandragoraWurzelstock · 16/04/2013 14:27

IMO:

Beth x
Mark x
Chloe x
Dean x
Joe...knows something, at least, probably moved the body
Ellie x
Tom...knows something
(Fred) x
Hardy x
Newsagent x
Becca x
Maggie x
Ollie x
PQ x
Nigel x
Vicar ? knows something but won't say. Could be involved.
Reporter x
Steve ? Sandbrook murderer - knew about the pendant
Soco - just a creepy get

all the x's I've ruled out
Therefore the murderer must be one of the others. Smile

Joe Tom Vicar Steve Soco

Maybe Steve confessed to the vicar or someone else did
I'm not sure if Vicars are bound to keep confidence?

MandragoraWurzelstock · 16/04/2013 14:30

I don't think Soco did it, we don't know him well enough - but he did ask Ellie out, so maybe he was trying to hint that she might be missing something about her H - maybe he knows something and wanted to discuss it with her. Can't remember the convo but didn't it involve a lot of 'I'm happily married' and him questioning that somehow...?

But what would he know about Joe? More stuff she isn't aware of? maybe he has the impression that they aren't that happy, from something Joe has said?

firesidechat · 16/04/2013 14:31

It's the psychic obviously. No evidence for this of course, but I can feel it my my waters. I also don't believe in psychic ability and he seems to know too much for my liking.

The vicars looking a bit suspect though. Did the boys have a fight or didn't they?

TimothyClaypoleLover · 16/04/2013 14:36

The vicar definitely knows who did kill Danny if he didn't do it himself as he was so adamant that Jack Marshall was innocent and needed protecting.

Although I am not convinced that Joe/Tom did it as it seems like it has been hinting at that for the last couple of episodes so would need a massive twist to avoid last episode being a bit of a let down/too obvious.

TimothyClaypoleLover · 16/04/2013 14:38

And why has PQ been allowed to sneak off in the middle of the night if the police are watching? She is at the very least a key witness so there must be some more involvement from her.

Northumberlandlass · 16/04/2013 14:39

I know Tim - I want to be shocked next week ! I am hoping I am wrong.
I am looking forward to finding out what Ellie's sister saw, power cut mystery, what happened in Whitby 15 years ago, why had Hardy 'been there before', why Hardy was having childhood flashbacks....

gah! I'm not going to get all these answered. Am I ?

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