Homeland - back soon!

[Hassled]

I am beside myself with excitement. here - who's putting the contacts in? Is that Carrie in a disguise? Any one else agog?

[mcmooncup]

Maybe they will start using Brody.........?

Or someone will kill Saul because he has found it all out?

But he just can't be bad

[UltraBOF]

No, Saul can't be bad. He just can't.

[scarletfingernail]

Loved that episode! I also fear that Saul could still turn out to be bad. Can't wait to see what happens next.

[cornsconkers]

Was it carrie's bag then? (Confused)

[cornsconkers]

If Saul is bad there is no Father Christmas.

[lighthousekeeping]

Will she get her job back now?

[Nancy66]

The part with the bag and the memory stick really confused me so I watched it again.

It was definitely NOT Carrie's bag. She picked the bag up in the apartment and as the memory stick was sewn into the lining she could not have known it was there.

So the memory stick was picked up in the park by one of Nasir's contacts - which explains why it was in the apartment.

I'm not finding this series as good. All getting a bit silly and implausible for me...think they should have left it at one incredible series with Brody blowing everyone up.

When I heard that Damian Lewis had signed up for 5 years I felt disappointed. The show is going to get steadily worse now.

[mynameis]

Ooh I loved it. I'm glad it's still watchable without adding the ton of sex scenes it had last season!

I'm wondering if Saul will use Brody as a double agent maybe? Unless Saul is a baddie

[noddyholder]

I really love it .

[donnie]

Well don't say I didn't warn you about Saul (see my earlier post)!

I thought some scenes were breathtaking but others very implausible. I find it difficult to accept that Brodie would actually have the balls (and stupidity) to a) text Nasir while in the US equivalent of the Cobra room and b) get away with it scot free. Plus the female Nasir link with the poor UK accent is not a good actor or plausible character IMO.

All the scenes with Carrie and Saul are brilliant though because they just are. They would be good if they were discussing wallpaper they are that good.

But , like I say, I did warn you...

[Nancy66]

If Saul is the mole then why did he give the go ahead for the assassination attempt? And even if he did that as some double bluff why wouldn't he have leaked the news to Nasir earlier - rather than having to rely on Brodie sending a text at the last second?

[UltraBOF]

Saul is good. That is all. If he turns out to be on the other side, it must mean they are the goodies, he's so good.

[strandednomore]

Surely the point is that there is no good or bad here - both sides are bad in their own ways and Brodie is torn between them as he has seen both for what they are. I wonder whether Saul is the same, he knows what each is capable of and at some point will have to chose. After all, the Americans certainly aren't the "goodies" here what with their drones and all - and that point was hammered home pretty hard by having them kill Abu Nazir's son, an "innocent".

I am liking this series so far but I think they maybe need to do a bit more to convince us about Brodie being on the "other" side, enough to even contemplate becoming a suicide bomber.

Loving/hating his wife - eg I hate her but love the way she is portrayed, great acting, very believable. And agree the daughter is going to be more interesting in this series. Hopefully they will use her to show that there is a positive side to Islam - they need to do something to counteract the crap the children were spouting in the schools (scary!).

[UltraBOF]

Yy, I'm not really so crass as goodies v baddies - I just get swoony at Saul.

He is the only man I can imagine being able to get away with the name Mandy.

[noddyholder]

I think the daughter is going to be central this series.

[cornykrueger]

Yes the daughter may be joining forces with Brodie I think.

I think Saul has a dilemma now as the truth about Brodie will lead carrie right back to the CIA, but he knows that she is not well enough and will self- destruct.

So if he blows brodie's cover then carrie will ultimately be harmed.
He may decide to try to set up Brodie himself.

[BlingBubbles]

Claire Danes is phenomenal in homeland, she does those mad eyes brilliantly! I think Saul will tell carrie about the tape especially after her telling him the reason for her breakdown was that she got Brodie so wrong.

Ooh I can't wait for next week, I have to stop myself downloading the US episode...

[mcmooncup]

Yessssss, Bling......I think Saul will tell Carrie he knows she was right........then get killed by someone.......don't know who though............and cue Carrie 'breakdown' again...............

[lighthousekeeping]

He has to tell her.

Oh, why did someone mention downloading the US episodes?

Im going to have to keep myself very occupied.

[donnie]

I hope you are right y'all. I don't WANT Saul to be bad but I suspect he is more anti US govt than we realise. He was horrified about the drone strike which killed the 85 children.

Also there was one very short scene which made a real impression on me last series in the episode when they are interrogating the guard who brutalised Brodie ( the one who subsequently appears to take his own life with a smuggled piece of razor blade): Saul is in his office and kicks a piece of rug flat which has got rucked up - it looked like a prayer mat to me. That same episode he also fails the lie detector (quick - tell Jeremy Vile!). Maybe the mat thing was a red herring.

Who else apart from me suspects Dana will convert to Islam?

[Nancy66]

The fact that the director is pushing us so much towards Saul being the mole makes me thing it can't be.

[mynameis]

BlingBubbles I totally agree. When she was having the panic attack laying on the bed it was so scarily realistic

Amazing actress

[comeonbishbosh]

Surely they can't use a public reveal of Brodie's tape at this point in the series.. it will all be over. But it's a good means of getting Carrie back into the CIA.

So... my working theories are either
Saul turns out to be 'bad' and suppresses it.
It gets lost in the post (a bit weak) so Saul knows Carrie is right, but now to Estes and co it just looks like both of them are off the rails.
There's a complicated reason why the tape can't be shown beyond a couple of CIA wonks, so it becomes a cat and mouse of CIA trying to catch Brodie out.

Not sure which way it will go, but loving to be back in on it!

[yesbutnobut]

What an amazing episode! I agree though that Brody sending that text message was highly implausible given where he was sitting. Anyway, if he really wants out of it (as he said to that even more implausible woman who is meant now to be giving him instructions), then he would have let the attack on Abu Nazir go ahead surely?

Such a great series ...