Homeland - back soon!

[Hassled]

I am beside myself with excitement. here - who's putting the contacts in? Is that Carrie in a disguise? Any one else agog?

That and rampant ambition, bisjo.

I don't think Saul's bad, he's the moral centre of the whole programme. There has to be one. There is such a thing as being too clever and the audience getting disillusioned and ceasing to care. That's what would happen for me if Saul were a wrong 'un.

I'm glad Virgil's back, he's good value.

Carrie no no no. She'd just got her credibility back and now she's lined herself to be labelled unreliable/emotionally led again.

I agree that something in her flipped when he didn't come on to her. She is obviously still in love with him and I think that her need to revenge/out him is driven as much by that as her professional hunger to convict a terrorist.

I don't trust that Quin creature at all. Can't make up my mind about Saul or Estes. The conversation that they had when they were alone together and Estes was viewing Brody's footage for the first time told us nothing, other than the fact that they are not 'in it together'.

I can't see what else they can do now other than to turn him and get him to double agent. I guess then we're almost back to square one wondering whether he has really been turned. I think because of the Issa thing, I don't think he ever can be so, for me, that would be a non-starter.

I hope the producer has a more creative mind than me you'd like to think so given that he is making Emmy Award winning drama

Wow. I wasn't expecting THAT

Brill episode! I thought that she was convinced he'd made her so would simply warn his contacts & they'd go to ground & therefore the CIA would have nothing more to go on & so best to arrest him.

I like your double agent theory as I hadn't thought of that & would definitely keep us guessing!

I don't think that Estes or Saul are the traitor & hopefully not the lovely Quinn either

Who are Royal and Elddritch? Have been watching avidly but don't recognise those names!

I meant Roya.

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Eldritch is a poster on here!

I DONT TThink carrie went crazy, i think she realised he knew, she said she realsied he knew by the look in his eyes.

I agree - Carrie knows Brodie well enough to read him accurately - she knew he knew she was on to him, and that they didn't have much time. So the going up to his room thing was spot on - but I think it will be perceived as "Mad Flaky Carrie" by Estes etc.

i wonder if estes will be in troubel with Walden now? that seemed to be his main cncern.

bit daft how the cia were investigating the car cleanign place man and the taxi driver. but they did investigate the woman who spoke to brody.whatshername.

I loved that the taxi diver was paranoid about dropping off to Langley - and sure enough there he is on the wall :o

They did put Roya (journalist) up on the wall.

I think Carrie was right, Brody did behave noticeably different after she talked about the ECT. Totally unexpected ending. Great episode.

No mention of the mole yet though, this season.

I thought I'd be bored by the Dana/Finn story but it's v well done, imo. And am beginning to think there's more to it. What if Abu Nazir's plan for revenge involves an attack on Walden's son's school? Which Brody's children now also attend. Nazir lost his son because Walden & co targeted his school.

Why are Dana and Finn texting each other as Sally/TJ?
(And why can't Dana speak properly, I missed half her lines)

Very good point Fiderer, you could well be right there re the school.

I missed last night's because we were at a bonfire party, but I can't wait to watch it later. I couldn't not read this thread so at least I know Saul doesn't die. I was worried about that.

I've never found Rupert Friend attractive before. But I like him in the CIA

And yet another English actor in the show!

trifling - I think it's Thomas Jefferson and I'm guessing the wife was a Sally?

This sheds light on Sally

Pseudo - that's who he is, I couldn't figure out where I'd seen him!

I have to admit, I watched that scene in the bar twice because the first time I did think, "Carrie, no! You've blown it." But on a second watch you can see that Brody pulls back after the exchange about her ECT.

D'you think Brody was hoping the ECT would have dulled her, made her forget things? Then he realises actually her memory, intelligence etc are intact and she is still dangerous, hence the exit stage left?

Did anyone notice the bit where Carrie 'accidently' bumped into Brody and they stood talking outside that building and the same actors kept going backwards and forwards to make the scene look busy with people.
DH spotted it, and then kept (about 3X) having to keep replaying it while we counted up the 'extras' walking back and forth. At least 3!
Poor continuity in such a great series.

I still can't believe she told him she loved him! Apart from it wasn't very professional (understatement) she had thought all along he was a terrorist, but still fell in love.

Saul needs to kick her up the arse.

Am just getting into homeland, it's great, DH raved about the first series, might need to borrow a box set.

Quinn is fit!

Brody looked v evil when carrie called him a murderer etc and said he'd been getting away with it too long and he grinned and admitted it. Boggly eyes and demonic grin.