Billy Mitchell?

[NickNacks]

Surely the world's youngest great-grandad?

Not that young at least 50.
How many different generations is he going to screw up tho.
First his son, then Jamie, Jay, William, Janet and Lola and now a new baby too. Just a matter of time before Phil Mitchell, 'liberates' Lola and the baby just like he did with Jamie and Jay.

Who is Lola's mum then? Did he know about her?

Only getting back in to it as Max is coming back!

My gran became a great-gran in her 50s.

And she doesn't even live in soapland

Didn't Lola come on to Ben recently? Are they second cousins or something.

I don't think Ben and Lola are second cousins.

Phils dad and Billy were cousins.
Which would of made Lola's dad and Phil first cousins once removed
Which makes Ben and Lola, first cousins twice removed.

Phew.

(I had to look up, how to work this out via wiki btw)

Or would that be third cousins. Arghh I think my brain is frying.

But who is Lola's dad? Where did she come from? She just popped up from nowhere and I never found out where.

Billy and Julie conceived a child when they were young and in care home.
Julie gave the child (son) up for adoption, I think.
Billy only found out about him recently, when Julie got back in touch.
By the time Julie agreed to find the son, he had died.
But he had a daughter (Lola) who was in a care home.
Billy became her guardian. He and Julie split, she left.

Billy was in care with a girl called Julie.
Julie fell pregnant and was made/wanted to give the baby up for adoption.
Julie never told Billy she was pregnant, just disappeared from his life.
Last year she reappeared and told him about his son.
They looked for their son.
He had died, (he was an alkie)
Son had a daughter, so daughter was put into care when dad died.
They got her out of care.
Julie couldn't cope with the guilt of her son dying and left.
Where Lola's mum is, well thats anyone guess.
BTW, I hate Eastenders, but its either watch it, or freeze in the kitchen while DH and the kids watch it

Ah right! Understand now! Thanks both :)

yeah, yeah.. i never watch it either....

I heard Mandy was supposed to be her Mum, in true ee 'You ain't my muvva!' 'Yeah I am' I just want to know who Lola's baby daddy is, really hope it's not Tyler! (Don't know why but keep having sordid dreams about him)

Was Mandy in it sometime ago? I don't remember her.

Yep Mandy was in it years ago and the woman who plays Phil Mitchell's bird - Shirley - played Mandy's mother.

she was with aiden?? who lived with the fowlers

Lola's baby daddy, its got to be Ben, she protested to much with the whole 'it could be anyone' it;s got to be Ben, and it will probably turn out he was her first, or the first which wasn't abuse!! EE is so predictable.

I don't remember her at all, mind you missed a few years on and off.

Yup. Aiden the Irish footballer who signed for Walford Town who Arfur Fowler took under his wing.

Mandy was a wild child who led Aiden off the straight and narrow.

Was Aiden Sean Macguire with a really bad Irish accent? Totally remember Mandy just not who was in it at the same time as her!

Yes that was him!

Was Mandy a friend of Dianne Butchers, were they on the streets together?

It could work that Mandy could be Lola's Mum, and I think Ben will be the Dad also, it will make homophobic is he homophobic as he doesn't comment on that kind of thing in EE Phill proud his son was with a woman!

I've just looked Mandy up in wikipedia.
Mandy arrives in Albert Square in March 1992 when her hospitalised mother, Lorraine (Linda Henry - bloody hell thats Shirley), leaves her in Pat Butcher's care. No mention of Diane, who left the square in July of '91 and went fruit picking. (I wikied her too)

Diane went fruit picking?

And to Paris where she had a baby she called Jaques.

And lived in Manchester, and took in Janine for a while?

Now that we are discussing the Butchers, why did Claire Butcher never really feature in East Enders?

Never mind that, how come neither jim, carol, max or jack have ever mentioned the 'three brothers and three sisters' that carol has before this derek turns up? So back when carol was married to alan jackson you never heard of this huge family, and dot's married to jim, a father of seven and not even aware?