Billy Mitchell?

[NickNacks]

Surely the world's youngest great-grandad?

I remember years ago, when Bianca found out David was her Dad, either Pat or David mentioned Carol's brothers that kicked his head in when they found out he had made Carol pregnant, I often thought since, if Carol was 14, then how did a younger Max and Jack beat up a bigger lad! As for the sisters, there was the one who went out with Phill not long ago, she decorated the house, that Phil took over, before the one he is in now, the one with the dreadfull green wall paper. Tanya's Gregg just sold it.

I think there was once another sister who was also in EE briefly.

Dot's married to Jim a father of 6. Derek, Suzy, Carol, April, Max and Jack

All of them at one point or another they had all been on EE prior to last week.
Years ago Jim and Derek turned up to April and some Greek blokes wedding, Greek bloke did a runner so Carol and Alan, Billie's dad got married instead, Derek went mental as he was a racist. Bianca's dad David Wicks, came across Derek going off on one to Alan and Carol, and took great pleasure in thumping Derek.
I was an avid follower in them days, but the whole baby swap storyline put me of for months, its just so bloody cold in the other room and dh loves it so I'm watching it again. I want to know how come I can't remember important stuff but crap like EE sticks in my brain for years.

What I think is really sad is that Jim had 3 grandsons die in 2010 and not one person mentioned that (Bradley died in Feb, Billie in Oct and James in Dec)

Oh and while I'm on a roll how come its never mentioned that
a) Ian Beale is as much Bianca's uncle as Max, Jack and Derek.
b) that Pat is Kat Moon's great aunt!

thegirl you are a legend. It always confuses me and my Dad how everyone is related.

Yes, I never get that they ignore the fact Pat was the sister to old Mo's husband, and that Kat is a cousin to Bianca etc.

Was David the son of Ian's Dad in the end? I thought it was that man who played Jonnies Brigg's Dad, Wickes? Pat's second husband!

Branning Family Tree off to see if there is a Beale one

David was Pete Beales son, it was Simon who was the result of Pat's affair (and eventual marriage) to Brian? Wicks.

please explain the family link in your facts a and b i am intrigued....

sorry ignore me i see since reading there have been about 6 posts

Beale family tree David despite being called Wickes, is Pete Beale's son, so Ian's half brother, blimey Ian is a pig to his niece Bianca.

here is the story of David

I got fact b wrong (sort of) aparently Mo got pregnant with Kat's mum by a one night stand and it was only after the birth that she married Pat's brother (not the father of Kat's mum, but surely as he brought her up ....)

the story of Pat, you will see she is sister in law to Mo Harris, Pat's maiden name

Pat was the sister to old Mo's husband? Wow, I never knew that. I realised they had history,but wow!

So the Butcher children were Claire, Diane Ricky and Janine? One of the sisters was missing at Franks funeral then.

Mitzi, apparently Claire had emigrated to Australia a few years before (probably to get away from Janine) but had come over to say good by to Frank a wee time before.

Have I said I hate Eastenders ... I am one sad cow

Yes Frank, had three daughters and one son, I think I remember Claire turning up taking Janine to live with her for a bit when she was a little girl.

I had it in my head as well that Pat was the Aunt to Viv (Kat's mum).

It should be fun with David's return!

So David is Ians half brother?

But isn't David also Ian's eldest "sons" father? (The one who stabbed Jane)

so that would mean Cindy had a baby with one half-brother, then married the other half- brother, and had twins with him...which makes Lucy and Peter cousins and brother/sister to their brother (what ever his name was).

no wiscky(sp) is his dad not David

I see!

Simon, Pat's other son, PC Rowan had it away with Cindy, Ian thought the baby was his when it was Simon's (his half brother who he never had a relationship growing up, who we later found out was not his half brother I think), Ian married Cindy when she was pregnant with Stephen, who was born on St Stephen's day-- boxing day.

Pete (as in Ian's dad not son) Beale, was told by Pat the both David and Wicksy (simon) were his children. BUT Pat had been having an affair with Wicks Snr (Brian? Wicks) whilst also having an affair with Pete and Pauline's older brother Kenny (the one Lou made go live abroad because she found Pat and Kenny in bed together) she then fell pregnant with Wicksy and then ran of with Wicks Snr and divorced Pete and married Wicks Snr. Apparently noone really 100% knows who Simon's dad is???

The moral of this story is that if you don't want every child you meet to call you "Grandma Pat" don't sleep around.

thegirl i do remember a scene when Carol, Max and Jack discuss all losing a child in the year. I think its when Jack was drinking heavily after Ronnie handed Tommy back.

Yes, Billy, James and Bradley all died within a short space of time.

I'm trying to get my head around this....the siblings of Charlie's wife (the Slayter girls mum) are Pats nephews and nieces.

So when someone turns up to see "Aunty Pat" they will be uncle/aunt to the Slayter girls.

They're all inbred in Walford!

Do you remember when Phil wrote on the wallpaper to explain the family tree to Ben.

I feel I need to do that, but DH wouldn't be impressed!