I'm wearing the same make-up now that I wore twenty years ago. Who can teach me something new?

[shandyleer]

When I say I'm wearing the same make-up, I don't mean the actual same make up (cos that would be fab value for money wouldn't it), but the same style. I've been thinking for a couple of years I should go and get some new ideas, tell me where I should go oh knowledgeable ones. Thanks.

what do you currently do?

Black liner on top of lids, black eye liner inside lower lids, black liner underneath - you get the picture, lots of black. I feel like a much plainer and older version of Chrissy Hynde. I want to experiment with different colours and styles of eye makeup but "subtle" doesn't do anything for me (I don't think).

I used to wear lippy too but as I've got older I've lost confidence in what suits me so don't bother. I have very dark brown hair and eyes and sallow skin.

You could go for a make-over at Space NK or Bobbi Brown.

"20 years ago" might be quite a good look though. It would be funny if you went for a make-over and they did you up exactly the same way.

They won't, though. they'll introduce you to a lot of the new products that have come on the market since you were last interested (primer, for eg.) and change your look a bit.

don't put liner inside lids - it's not a good look.
try brown instead of black
lip gloss if you don't want lippy - juicy tubes are great and prescriptives do some nice ones also

They'll work that look for you.

Probably change the liner on the upper lid to a dark eyeshadow, applied wet, with a blunt brush.
And help you choose a lipstick.
And show you how to make the dark-eyed look, eyelinered look a. more subtle for day-time b. more sultry for night.

I reckon you should go to a Bobbi Brown counter. They are brilliant at subtle lipsticks and they have a very gorgeous dark eyeshadow called "Cappuccino" which they do a good sultry look with.

Ok, thanks. I'll give Bobbi Brown a go then. They won't laugh at me will they (with my 20 year old eye make up)?

Why no eyeliner on inside lids cornsilk?

it looks awful!

Don't mean to offend - I did it in my grungy youth, but it really is a look for sulky 17 year olds only.

Oh crikey, I'm well past 17, will lay off it pronto!

corny I actually wear liner inside lids MOre now than I used to . It defines my eyes better. BUT I use a soft grey rather than black.

I reckon a make up counter will take your 'look' (which sounds rock chick) and put a modern twist on it. i bet they put blusher on you too.

I've just started wearing eyeliner on the inside again, after years of not doing it, as cybil says i find it defines my eyes well and goes with my new short hairstyle. I had make over at Bobbi brown a few years back and it was fab, well worth it

All the best dresed people wear eyeliner there

at cybil

quite

everyone in teh world needs teh doublewear grey eyeliner in grafitti or summat

is that a twist up one or sharpeny one

Oh, I'm confused now, to eyeline or not to eyeline? How about one eye lined, and the other not

Rock chick sounds good, but in reality my look is more very-old-chicken with no rock ...

def eyeliner but softer texture, softer colour, black too harsh and ageing unless you are out at night

no! Don't do it - listen to auntie corny.

eyeliner in inner lid or no eye liner on inner lid?

theres only one way to find out......

fight!

do you wear it on inner lid on the upper eyelid-god it's sounding technical now

am sure St Bobbi Borwn says put it on inner upper lashes if that makes any farkin sense

max factor do a nice mascara with gold or pink bits that looks nice

No I don;t wear it on upper inner lid altho those make up bints always do for nights out.

I'm loving these, cheap as chips but a great alternative to eye pencil You can't beat a bit of Collection 2000!