Sagging jawline and neck

[LavendarPink]

I have a sagging jawling and neck, in my mid 50s, never had cosmetic treatments before. I have platysma bands. I think it's time I do something about it. I have thyroid u3 nodules and a past parotidectomy so my options are limited.

I need something that is safe for me, cost effective with long term results (no neck lifts).

Please advice.

Ooh. Watching with interest as I have the exact same thing. I’m currently trying a peptides serum but the results are negligible

Surely surgery is the only option to give real results, I don't see how a beauty salon procedure or cream can make that much difference.

@Pumpkinseaking please let me know if anything works for you.

@Yupstillhere surgery is too invasive.

I’m looking at ultherapy as a non surgical solution but I need to save up. It uses targeted ultrasound to lift. I’m early 40s and have quite prominent cheekbones which seems to have held up the top half of my face, it’s acted like a coat hanger but the jawline and neck haven’t fared so well. I don’t think I’ve got a lot of buccal fat to start with and I’ve got an oval shape face which I think has contributed to the sagging jaw.

I have a device called Rio 60 seconds facelift and it DOES work for minor sagging, but it’s quite uncomfortable and you have to be really consistent with it (also it’s not 60 seconds all in, just 60 seconds on each area) but I think I’m getting to the point it can only do so much. But I do see a difference when I stop using it, I’ve gone a few weeks here and there that have turned into months of it sitting in a drawer and I do look more jowly left to nature. It’s quite old technology now though and I’ve had it for years, and I’ve been thinking about trying the Magnitone pebble pro face toner as it seems like a very similar thing and less expensive

@Quamarina I'm looking at similar treatments but due to my medical history I can't just go to any high street clinics.

@LavendarPink That does add another layer of worry. I would definitely be wanting a maxillofacial surgeon to be doing mine and I’d want to see strong evidence they’ve had the right training and experience, not a beautician or even a nurse, it’s nothing personal as I’m sure they would all do an amazing job but because it’s quite a new thing, I don’t have much trust. Even if it’s ’non invasive’ it’s still a procedure and carries risk. I’m too nervous for Botox or fillers despite seeing fantastic results on friends

@Quamarina It seems like I'm fighting a losing battle. I want to improve my look but I'm restricted in treatment options. I'm nervous with botox and fillers too. I have never had any cosmetic treatments so I'm quite overwhelmed.

HIFU?

@cleowasmycat I would like to try HIFU but my sister had two treatments and said her results were subtle.

Also, with HIFU I have to avoid certain areas on my face and neck.

@LavendarPink i’m prone to allergic reactions, I don’t know what’s wrong with my immune system but it makes me very cautious.

I really took for granted how good I looked, until I didn’t any more. I don’t miss the male attention, it honestly isn’t that, but I don’t feel that how I look on the outside matches how I feel inside. It makes me feel a bit sad when I’ve spent ages on my makeup for an event (and quite a bit of money on skincare too, I do take it seriously) and I don’t even wear dark clothes any more to try and make myself look a bit lighter and brighter, my family will be like oh you poor thing you look so tired / are you stressed / dehydrated / difficult time at work, and I’m not, it’s just the jowls giving me an overall older look

@Quamarina I understand how you feel. I don't need to look ten years younger. I just want a firmer jawline and neck to match the age of my face.

I was thinking of trying a home microcurrent device but chatgpt said it's not safe for me! I don't want to keep on buying expensive skin care products for them not to work.

Have you looked up facial exercises online like face yoga? I do it and it makes a subtle difference. Also you need to increase the time with the rio 60 second device. It's like other muscles the older you get the more they sag and the more up keep they need. You say it hurts so you haven't got enough of the water based gel on or you've got it turned up too high. Try doubling or trebling the time on each area but on a lower power. Build it up gradually. Sorry just re read properly and it's someone else with the rio.

Have you looked into Sculptra? I haven’t had it, but it increases collagen, so may help with your face.

For the neck, I highly recommend polynucleotides. I had it injected into my neck/throat, which had gone saggy due to weight loss (I’m 41).
I had three sessions (which cost £220 each) and the difference is remarkable. I’ll now have a top up every six months or so.

@Crudd99 does face yoga firm up a sagging jawline?

@IwanttoWFH Thanks, I will look into the two treatments you mentioned.

Yes it's helped mine a lot.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/beauty/face/improved-jowls-without-surgery-injectables/

I have this bookmarked. They seem to have added a paywall since but it's an easy one to get around. It has 3 exercises which I think are making a teeny difference. Gonna keep at it and see.

@SchoolOfCool thanks for the link but they required me to create an account to read it.

It's not the cheapest thing in the world, but after a lot of research I bought the pure lift face device. It's like face yoga on steroids for face sculpting and contouring. I can't speak to long term results, but I can say that everything looks lifted after one session. It uses ems stimulation to lift the muscles so obviously they drop back initially but like working out, consistent use builds them and I think they say at around 6 months you have permanent results.

Do you know which polynucleotide they used?

My clinic uses Rejuran and I had 2ml each time.

@AbraCaStabYa which one did you purchase. I'm thinking of buying one to try today. I just have to avoid the neck area.

@IwanttoWFH how much per session and how long results last?

I have had good results from a tiny amount of filler in the preauricular area - I’d had a bit of volume loss here which was contributing to a slight jowling. I was also considering Sculptra (but this is inflammatory) or Julaine (more expensive but not inflammatory).

I do think face yoga has a bit of an impact if you do it regularly.

As an aside I loved polynucleotides - have them round my eyes once a year.

Anyone has those verticle bands on their neck? What treatments do I need for these?

I went for the baseline model after doing a lot of research. Basically they have a base model, professional model and a pro. The professional model is made for aestheticians working on someone else's face, so you don't want that, it would be uncomfortable to use on yourself. Then there are the expensive pro models, they have a higher output but don't perform better, basically they will just give you results faster but both will get you to the same place. So I went for the £400 one that would get me permanent results in 6 months vs the £800 one which would get me the same results in 3. All preference but I couldn't justify an extra 400 for a few months.

Hope that helps!

I am excited to see what it does.