Can anyone recommend simple black trainers for walking/casual?

[Bugeyedowl]

Been looking for ages - I'd a pair fully-black or as black as possible, non-chunky, low or mid-top style. But with arch support as I have ahem, difficult feet!

Not brand/fussy but they seem to all be super chunky with built-up heels these days, which I guess is the fashion? It just doesn't suit me!

These are the ones I have, it is my 3rd pair, I've been wearing them for about 6 years for walking:

www.hoka.com/en/gb/outlet-women/challenger-6-gore-tex/1116878-SS.html

And these are the new version:

www.hoka.com/en/gb/women-trail/challenger-7-gore-tex/1134502.Ihtml

There are quite a few UK sellers you can get them from which is a bit quicker than buying from Hoka who send them from Europe. If you search you can find them at the same price from various suppliers.

Sorry, the 2nd link didn't work:

www.hoka.com/en/gb/women-trail/challenger-7-gore-tex/1134502.html

They really are waterproof too, mine have got really wet and my feet never get wet. My first pair were non goretex, I don't think they did goretex ones then, still really comfy but I didn't use them in winter/rain. The goretex ones I've worn all winter and with wool socks my feet have been warm.