Please recommend the best kohl/eyeliner you've ever used

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I'm 40 and yet to find one that doesn't give me panda eyes by 11am. Have tried EL, clinique so not just cheap ones. it could be that I'm just poor at applying it.

Don't like the heavy look - just a bit of under eye definition.

Help, determined to find 'the one'!

Thanks!!

Maybe try an eyelid primer like that Urban Decay Potion? It stops my favourite kohl smudging onto my brow bone. I guess it would work below my lashes too.

Definitely use eye primer! I use urban decay but benefit and MAC do great ones too. I use cheap no.7 eye liner but with primer, it lasts for hours!!

oooh, never even knew such a thing existed! Thanks

Clinique Quick eyes was always great.

Avon Glimmersticks eyeliner. Doesnt budge all day

I second Avon Glimmersticks....about £6 when not on offer, but usually some deal on! Really excellent, don't budge all day...... :)

Thank you. now Avon is something I haven't used in YEARS! will def look!

have just ordered from amazon! hopefully you have solved my problems!!

Ah great, hope you love them! I haven't used anything else for about five years now....I'm not a massive fan of much from Avon but I do love a Glimmerstick! :)

Hmmm OP what foundation do you use?

I ask because I changed my BB cream recently. I hadn't found the old one greasy at all, and I figured my eye make up smudges were unrelated. But when I switched BB creams I found the problem virtually went. Is that a possibility?

And I like Smashbox :)

Rimmel kohl is ace.

have used EL dbl wear light for 5 yrs but just trying clinique even better this month. I have considered that too.. . I look with at wonen who get home from work with intact makeup...how!!??

Bobby browns eyeliner £16 but does not move. Read the reviews...

liking the sound of the BB one too ladies...on my back up if Avon goes pear shaped . Cheers!

I bought a Bobbi Brown Long Wear Eye Pencil the other day. It does move a bit, though nothing like some others. However, it irritates my eyes so much that I have stopped using it.

I've just bought Avon glimmerstick :) hope it's good. Always use eyeliner.

Another vote for urban decay and also bb gel eyeliner.

I've just spent £39 on the Bobbi Brown gel eyeliner and brush thanks to these recommendations - and I haven't got out of bed yet. Bloody Mumsnet, it's costing me a fortune! (It looks like SUCH a nice product though!)...

You'll love it posh and will last you at least a year so not bad in the grand scheme?? We have to justify these things x

Hourglass do a gel eyeliner which doesn't move.

I had a bad reaction to the Urban Decay eye primer, streaming red sore eyes, have swopped to the Bare Minerals one and it's fine.

Bobbi brown pot eyeliner is amazing but be very careful to replace the of properly or it dries out in no time

Avon glimmer sticks are a good budget alternative. I also love the soap and glory felt pen eyeliner, amazing staying power

I've spent £££ on eyeliners and always go back to Collection 2000 basic pencil eyeliner, it's only about £2. I've used it for years!