I'm seeing great results combining these two plans and wondering if anyone else was doing the same? Basically the kitchen is closed from 8pm til 12 noon. Only black tea, black coffee, herbal teas and water allowed. No zero xal drinks no milk in tea etc. After 12 noon and til 8pm I'm finding it so easy to stick to Food Optimising, I'm eating less and feeling fuller much quicker and 3 lbs down in5 days!!! anyone want to join?