"That baby should be sleeping through by now..."

[pelafina]

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some do, some don't. I'd reckon the majority don't, tbh, thinkning back to my post-natal threads
Grannies look through rose tinted specs - don't pay tpp much attenton!

tell her she's welcome to try and sort it out herself if she's that bothered!

hello again

dd is, as you know, a poor sleeper too

I am lying to my mother and MIL/ SIL etc to the extent of saying 'oh she's sleeping much better than she was, we are coping fine, of course if you'd like to cook dinner / make me a cup of tea / do my shopping it would be very helpful'

so putting a positive gloss on it rather than laying claim to 12 unbroken hours...

dd1 did
dd2 did not (and still comes in our bed a couple of times a week annoying me)

kerpow

best way to deal with these comments

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dd1 was still having a bottle at about 15 months iirc

and I am sure she wasn't hungry it was just habit but if I fed her it was a) 20 mins then peace OR b) not feed her and have her moaning on for 2 hours

hmmmmmmmm, a or b, what will it be?

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dd2 I mean, not dd1

Well, apparently most babies no longer physically need a night feed after 6 months. Although as we all know, nobody's told them that. So even if you're going by the book, 5 months is still early..

Pelafina - I read something interesting the other day

The formula milk that became very popular in the 60s and 70s (i.e. when we were probably born and our mothers were bottle feeding us) was very different to the formula we have today. It was very difficult to digest and hence a lot of the babies slept through at an early age. I've even seen a picture of my sister-in-law at 7 weeks old being fed some sort of cereal with a spoon! This is why I think our own mothers are at risk of giving us the 3rd degree if our babies aren't sleeping through at an early age.

The new formula is much lighter and more similar to breast milk. So, whether you bf or ff it won't really make much of a difference in this day and age.

My DS is 12 weeks old and can't go for longer than 3 hours at night without waking up starving. Apparently babies have to be at least 3 months old and weigh at least 12-13lb before they can realistically sleep through (DS only weighs 11) - just goes to show you should take no notice of age, just weight, temperament etc. Some babies are just rubbish sleepers I guess!

babyisaac mine ds is called baby isaac

I meant my ds is called baby Isaac

DS did and was a dream by 5 months,

DD has only jsut started, but by 5 months I think she was ususally managing 8 hours, but not a whoe night.....

My DD definately didn't sleep through at 5 months. IMHO if you baby wakes up crying for food in the night there is sod all you can do about it - except feed them

Just do the easist thing possible that will get you the maximum sleep and don't worry about the ol' "rod for your back" malarky. Babies will sleep throug when they are ready - go with the flow and just do anything you can to get your sleep in!

As for you mother - just tell her that he isn't sleeping. When she 'helpfully' gives you some advice - just say 'I tried that and it didn't work - infact it made things worse. However - if you want to have him for a couple of hours whilst I pop upsairs and have some kip - that would be lovely!!!'

at 5 months ds woke hourly.
he fed overnight until well into being weaned and has just started consistently sleeping through. (10 months)

i also think retropect gives people rose tinted glasses.

At five months both my ds and dd still woke hourly.

Also, I know everyone says this, but all babies really are different.

DD1 still has difficult nights and she's 20m.. DD2 slept through the night (by which I mean a 10 hour stretch most nights) from about 8 weeks.

And although I was probably guilty of feeding DD1 to sleep one two many times which may have contributed to her sleep problem, I didn't do anything terribly different with DD2. She just likes sleeping!

Oh my DS wakes up over 6 times a night.

My mother keeps asking 'why though', 'why does he wake up'

I feel like shouting I DON'T EFFING KNOW

It is hard hard work

Sorry he is 7mths

My DD1 slept through the first time at 12 weeks on the EASY routine, (with dreamfeed at 11pm) and DD2 slept through the first time at 9 weeks using the same feeding routine. I do think there must be some logic that if babies have all their daily calories in the day, and are kept up during the day, with frequent (but short E.G 1 1/2 hours) naps then the night waking should be less.

With both of mine when I knew they were taking enough food in the day and doing the short naps thing then I used suger water for a few nights (warmed up, and with a bottle of milk on standby) to see how that worked. And for me it did!

But, I cannot clain that both DDs slept through EVERY night from 12 and 9 weeks. But, DD1 slept through every night from 4 months (I went back to work at 5 months and night waking was already a distant memory) and DD2 who is 13 weeks does occasionally wake about 3am, I pop the dummy in, and that is that til about 0630-0700.

With both of mine being under 2, I just don't think I could cope at all if I was still feeding in the night - shattered as it is!!

Some babies sleep at night, and some don't.

Its not good/ bad parenting, just a baby thing.

Try not to stress / try lots of techniques.

Tis exhausting, I know, but it will end and they will sleep through.

My DS3 still wakes for a BF at 11 months.

Ds2 slept far better and had no BM at this stage.

Can't remeber DS1, though I was led to believe that if I was a good Mum and followed Gina, he'd sleep through at 8 week, (course he didn't!)

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pelafina, let me know if you have any luck with the dummy I tried it last night and DS looked at me like I was nuts