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The MN Mail Column - what we think, and what we plan to do next... part 2

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whataboutthisone · 18/08/2009 12:56

Firstly, I am a regular but have created a new name for this.

My thoughts about what I know so far:

  1. In a much earlier post there was a discussion about a change in T&Cs and whether they are valid or not. Several years ago I took a company to court for a breach of their T&Cs. Their argument was that they had changed T&Cs and my complaint was therefore no longer valid. However, the judge said that because I had not specifically been asked to accept the new T&Cs, I was entitled to rely on the ones I had accepted and therefore I won my case.
  1. I choose to post on MN in the knowledge that the details I give are probably just obscure enough to anyone I may know in RL who also posts, so that what I say still effectively remains private. However, that doesn't mean that the same could be said of, for instance, my mother, who reads the DM (!) There is probably just enough about my circumstances that would enable her to put 2+2 together. I would like the option to choose whether or not I let my Mum ( or anyone else in RL) in on certain areas of my life, and there is a real possibility that this hack, has taken that choice away from me.
  1. I have never ( and now will never) post asking for advice, but I will also be very careful about offering advice in the future. I, along with many others, occasionally use examples from my life to explain where I am coming from. If I continue to do that, as I said earlier, it is possible that some people would be able to work out who I am. Now, I am not so big-headed as to believe that any advice I offer is worth taking, however, there are many fantastic posters on here who do give amazing and insightful advice based on their own experiences. It would be a real shame if that was to stop because they, like me, do not want to share some of those experiences with the folk they are close to in RL. It would also be a real tragedy if others were prevented from asking for help for the same reasons.

I am very disappointed that any MNer would feel it is acceptable to violate the trust we place in each other on this forum. I do not know who she is. I do not want to know who she is. But I hope she is hanging her head in shame for breaching the trust that has been placed in her by everyone whose words she has stolen to make a few bucks!

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Aitchiswaitingforalegalopinion · 19/08/2009 08:10

(and to be completely fair, Twig emailed MNHQ within the week to tell them. which yer mate never did).

anyway, Moldies not your best example i think, given that the stramash was such that many of us missed Christmas 2008 in its entirety.

FruitCrumble · 19/08/2009 08:13

LH has not asked me to defend her.

Of course I am mentioning your name if my posts answer yours.

Some of you have your own agenda on this I see. But I am in danger of becoming sucked into mumsnet once more and that would never do, I have to go and do some paid work now.

I'm sorry I cannot provide more of the ammunition that some of you are looking for.

StripeySuit · 19/08/2009 08:15

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stuffitlllama · 19/08/2009 08:16

yuk fruit crumble

something very disdainful in your use of "paid work" there

pompous ass

FuriousofTunbridgeWells · 19/08/2009 08:18

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RustyBear · 19/08/2009 08:21

Lovebeingamummy - why do you say name changing is a pita? It seems pretty easy to me - we've had people on some fast moving parody threads doing it very rapidly.

RustyBearwantsachange · 19/08/2009 08:22

Like this.

Aitchiswaitingforalegalopinion · 19/08/2009 08:45

the openness has been discussed before, but even MNHQ didn't know what was fair use and what wasn't, and i don't believe that there's ever been an in-depth discussion about the t&cs. (certainly not these ones, they're changing them by the day).

and who were you again, FC? (no answer, comes the loud reply).

AitchwonderswhoFruitCrumbleis · 19/08/2009 08:47

or this.

morningpaper · 19/08/2009 08:49

fruitcrumble you are being very rude, as you appear to be an old MNer who, erm, doesn't like Aitch very much, who has generously appeared "with the truth" (ermm thanks for that), while changing your identity so we have no idea who YOU are. Do you really fail to see why that's not quite a level playing field?

morningpaper · 19/08/2009 08:51

No offence, like, Aitch, maybe fruitcrumble really DOES like you, I'm just saying ermmm

AitchwonderswhoFruitCrumbleis · 19/08/2009 08:55

lol, no i think it's safe to say that she doesn't, from her repeated digs. i'd love to know who she really is... the tone is reminiscent of the rev situ. mentions of paid work there i think?

MrsBarbaraKingstanding · 19/08/2009 08:56

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Nancy66 · 19/08/2009 09:23

FC - you are wrong when you say it was not the journalist's job to seek permission for publication. the journalist is responsible for his/her own work.

FuriousofTunbridgeWells · 19/08/2009 09:58

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ExtraFancy · 19/08/2009 10:15

I was under the impression that freelance journos generally pitch ideas to editors, which may then get commissioned? Or maybe that's just the ones I know (who are currently spending most of their working days pitching here there and everywhere).

Winehouse · 19/08/2009 10:17

I'm going to go on about blanket deletions until someone gets so fed up of me I get banned and deleted.

Is Justine the only person who can make a decision about this? If so, and she is so powerful and scary that no other MN employee dares breathe til she gets back then how could she not know about the DM in advance?(risks libel suit, doesn't care)

Will MNHQ make a statement one way or the other about deleting posts so people know where they stand?

FruitCrumble · 19/08/2009 10:18

Dear dear. You don't particularly like what I say so you turn on me. I don't think I have been saying anything different to what soupdragon or daftpunk or others have been saying, but all of a sudden my very old mumsnet posting name is very relevant to the discussion, why?

I have nothing against Aitch apart from finding her Aitchwaitingforalegalopinion name amusing. As I found kingcanutes name amusing before she too, changed it.

Stop trying to find things that are really not there.

The Daily Mail have done lots and lots of news stories in the past about Mumsnet, that have quoted posters.
They have used a variety of different journalists to do that.
There is no mention of Mumsnet this week so the feature is not a regular thing.

'My truth' as you put it, are just hard facts that are out there for all to see.

crumpet · 19/08/2009 10:23

Winehouse, I would be staggered if blanket deletions was the outcome of this - don't think it's a runner

StripeySuit · 19/08/2009 10:24

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crumpet · 19/08/2009 10:24

And if you read Justine's post she said there would not be an immediate response - and Helen etc have reiterated that, so it's not as if they have ignoring us

Winehouse · 19/08/2009 10:29

I know what Justine has said about it - I do not believe she has been entirely truthful, though. And I know they have said there will be a delay, but I don't accept why.

It is easy to delete a poster's history and others have had it done. Why is it different now?

pofacedandproud · 19/08/2009 10:29

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