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New topic for discussion of the Middle East conflict and a word on our moderation

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JustineMumsnet · 19/10/2023 09:29

Hi all

We’ve had tonnes of feedback about our moderation of these discussions so we thought it worth explaining our principles/ thought processes.

First thing to say is that as MNers and parents we empathise with the absolute abhorrence and distress experienced by so many as a result of this conflict.

In recent days, understandably, there has been an unprecedented surge in the number of reports we’ve received, underlining just how hurt and divided people are about the ensuing conflict in Israel & Gaza. We are aware that wherever we intervene or draw lines it won’t be right for some, but we want to give some clarity on our approach so that folks can better understand our decisions.

Our guiding principle is to allow Mumsnetters to express their opinions, so long as they are civil and within the boundaries of the law and common decency, even when those opinions are challenging or unpalatable to some others.

We do not believe that criticism of Israel’s actions is necessarily anti-Semitic. We do believe that it’s entirely fair to call out and condemn Hamas for the terrorist organisation that they are. But we encourage posters to focus on specific actions rather than making sweeping generalisations about anyone based on their ethnicity, religion, or nationality. Failure to do so is likely to break our guidelines.

We obviously can’t verify the accuracy of every post on the site - we have around 30000 posts a day and frankly even the large news outlets, which have editorial control over the content they produce, seem to be struggling with accuracy in a chaotic and fast moving situation. Mumsnet is first and foremost a forum for discussion and whilst we take moderation very seriously we don’t pre-vet posts and we rely on our users to challenge posts they feel are inaccurate or break our guidelines.

We completely understand that, at this time especially, not everyone can stomach contrary opinions about the rights and wrongs of this conflict. But we do not believe it would be right for Mumsnet to shut down all discussion of this topic - that would be anathema to what we’re here for.

What we can do, however, (and thanks to those who suggested it) is to create a temporary Middle East Conflict forum so that those who would rather not engage with these threads can hide them easily via your Talk settings. (You can also hide individual threads, and we’ll move threads into this topic when necessary).

There’s no solution that works for everyone in the way we moderate this. We do understand how distressing this situation is and we apologise if we’re taking a little longer than usual to respond to reports - suffice to say the team is somewhat stretched - but we are doing our level best to listen and navigate this as fairly and humanely as possible. Please bear in mind that our moderation team are human too and I’d ask you not to take your frustration at world events out on them. Thanks.

BeckyAMumsnet · 19/10/2023 10:06

Hello @Normalsizedsalad we will move threads when necessary - there's no need to report every thread to us as some may be better suited to other boards. Thank you.

BeckyAMumsnet · 19/10/2023 10:29

ssd · 19/10/2023 10:19

Sorry meant justine, that's not to say yours wasn't excellent too beckyGrin

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BeckyAMumsnet · 21/10/2023 13:56

Hi all - we have seen some new joiners who are clearly out to cause trouble but relatively speaking they are few in number. Please bear in mind that many posters frequently change their username and so long as their intention is not to deceive others, we've no issue with that. It's also worth mentioning that not every new joiner who adds to these discussions is doing so in bad faith. As always the best thing you can do if you have concerns is report them to us. We'll always take a look.

HebeMumsnet · 01/11/2023 10:46

Morning, everyone.

Thanks for continuing to share your thoughts and concerns and for your understanding. As you can imagine, we're getting an enormous amount of reports through on these topics at the moment.

Just to be clear, we do delete posts that conflate Hamas and all Palestinians (and their actions) as well as those that conflate The IDF or Israeli government and all Israelis, and their actions. However, we have to see the posts first. Mumsnet is a huge site so we rely on reports largely to tell us where there is a problem, so please do report posts you see that you think we need to be aware of. Justine's post above covers most eventualities so do have another look at that if you're unsure about which sorts of post could be deletable.

To address some of the concerns about how stretched we are. Yes, as you can imagine, this is certainly the case and something we've been quite transparent about here. We're doing our best to get through the huge volume of reports as quickly as possible, but it's still a big challenge and we'd rather make the right decisions than just 'fast' decisions, so we really appreciate your patience.

Despite the challenge of the numer of reports, we also don't want to discourage people from sending them in when that's such a vital part of our moderation, particularly at the moment. So it's important to us to look carefully at each and every report and deal with them well.

Please be assured, though, that we are prioritising reports on these topics so that they are dealt with as quickly as possible.

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