GCSE Summer 2020 Thread 7 : Carry on Corona Cohort, Cruising or Crawling to The Final Countdown

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Welcome all to the 7th Thread for this year's GCSE cohort ...or the Corona Cohort as has been termed by @FoolsAssassin.

Some of us have been here since I started first thread back in 2010, some will be new. Everyone has been friendly and helpful in the past. It is hoped this will continue. Going forward we intend to stay in secondary so any new threads should have 'GCSE Summer 2020 Thread # : Carry on Corona Cohort' in title just to make it easier to find.

From now on our DS/DD may go down various paths so we decided not to be exclusionary and stay right here in Secondary

Thread 1 The first GCSE yr 10

Thread 6 last thread

In circumstances where the centre assessment grade was lower than the mock grade, the student will receive the centre assessment grade.

Why ? If they have so much faith in the CAG then why not use that for basis of appeal in the first place? Ofqual really do want to have their cake and eat it don’t they?

So am I understanding this correctly, on appeal, if sat under the correct circumstances, Dd will be awarded the lower of the two (mock/cag)....

All fine, would like to understand how quickly they will be able to turn this around. New 6th will hopefully take into account this information if current school issues it on Thursday, fingers crossed.

Because if they give the CAG that invalidates everything they did that they were told to do by Gav.

@FloweringFlowers OCR will publish their info about how to appeal tomorrow. Priority appeals normally don't take very long so I'd like to think that the boards will turn them round quickly once they get the info from the school

@neutralintelligence Hear hear!

We will also be appealing everything we possibly can. DD has been online and seen the furore over the appeals (being forced to accept the lower of the mock grade and the CAG) and has been in floods of tears for the past hour. I am so angry and there is nothing I can do or say to make this outrageous injustice better for her.

The spirit that this is being done in is so nasty and mean. It is the whole attitude that I hate in this country of people only feeling they have succeeded if someone else is seen to fail, the feeling that your good mark is devalued if someone else gets the same mark, the feeling that a good mark is worth more if everyone else gets a lower mark.

An appeals process that focuses on the lowest possible mark can hardly be called an appeal. If they are withholding a higher mark with no possibility of using it in an appeal - that is not a proper appeal.

Back in March this is not what we were promised or led to expect.
A high grade that an employer might question does not devalue the grade. No-one can take away a high grade from you once awarded. But a low grade permanently deprives you of what you could and would have achieved - you can't sit and make excuses at every interview for the rest of your life; no-one will want to know.

Thank you @MrsHamlet

The stupid thing is that if they had just decided to go with CAGs when Scotland did, all of this would be over, the news cycle would have moved on and nobody would be calling on Gav to resign (unless he'd made another monumental cock up by then, which is always possible). This way it's going to go on for months and months and presumably cost millions. That's money that could have been spent solving the problem of the bulge year for universities. So extra funding where needed, or bursaries if people agree to defer etc.

@FloweringFlowers Don’t forget its mock/CAG or you stick with her calculated grade.

@singingstones yes, I agree.
If they hadn't mentioned mocks I wouldn't even have raised it, but that was what they first offered and now it's in my head.
If they had just followed Scotland immediately and gone with CAGs we would have shut up and gone away (mostly, compared to the s*tonne of appeals we are all going to put in now).

If the mock is higher than the CAG, do you get the CAG, or do you have to stick with the moderated grade?

Eg mock A star
CAG A
Moderated grade C

You get the CAG

It doesn't help the DailyFail running stories suggesting that Nicola Sturgeon is running the UK and calling all the shots. That basically means Gav and BJ can never do anything that she has done without being told NS is running the show.

If the number of appeals for A levels and GCSEs are as many as I think they are going to need a monumental size task force to get through each one.

Ah ok so if you did better in your mock then the CAG is more reliable, but if you did better in the CAG then the mock is more reliable, makes perfect sense.
And all still no use for those who didn't sit mocks, or whose mocks don't fulfil the criteria.

@BackInTime - so our DC will be let down again because their results may not be correct by the start of term?

Basically teacher assessments can only be trusted if you outperformed them in a mock, set and marked by the same teacher 👍
Honestly you couldn't make this shit up.

Just so I can remember this:

We have awarded grades, CAG grades and Mocks.

So:
If Mock is higher than Awarded grade then you get Mock
If Mock is higher than CAG then you get CAG???

Can someone pls explain to me like a 5yr old?

I think CAG is now an anomaly because we have with 3 options which doesn’t make sense as OFQUAL have already rubbished the CAGs so why now is it suddenly a contender?

And whoever called it Task Force doesn't watch Brooklyn99, because that is immediately what I thought of.

How on earth are schools going to handle all this - potentially thousands and thousands of appeals, each one requiring evidence of a higher grade, with the paper and mark system.

@Shimy
Mock is A
CAG is B
Grade is C

You get B on appeal if you meet the criteria

I'm hopeful that it will actually be fairly straightforward in that schools will appeal whole cohorts just by being able to send in the evidence, rather than individual appeals which take ages to prepare

“ Needs to be remedied by 1 September.”

DS has to enrol in his 6th form on results day, immediately after receiving his results.
Or if he decides to go to the local college instead which is now leaning towards, enrolment is 24th/25th August.
If he doesn’t get enough passes he won’t be able to enrol anywhere?
I’ve looked at his mocks and his “target” grades (are these the same as predicted? As this was all we’ve been given) and I think even with downgrading.
If they do that without historical data

@MrsHamlet That can’t be. Thewhole point of the process is to appeal for one’s mocks. I’m just going to leave it now because I’m getting a headache.

It is doing my head in Shimy

Let's say your CAG was an A but you've been moderated down to a C. Is this right?

If your mock was a B you could have a B

If your mock was an A you get an A.

If your mock was an A star you get an A. The CAG stops it going higher.

If your mock was a C or lower, no change? You don't get the CAG in this case?