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Sutton Trust / Oxbridge / Top schools - yet more fatally flawed data

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Talkinpeece · 09/12/2018 19:02

Yet again the Sutton Trust has released a report and press blurb based on fatally flawed analysis of their own data

Here is the BBC story
www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-46470838
Here is their press release
www.suttontrust.com/research-paper/access-to-advantage-university-admissions/
Here is the full report
www.suttontrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/AccesstoAdvantaged.pdf

My LEA got listed as one of the ones that hardly sends any kids to Oxbridge or the Russell Group
I know this to be untrue so I checked the data.
They deem the location of pupils to be where they sit their A levels.

Southampton kids mostly do A levels in Hampshire
so Hampshire is getting the credit for bright Southampton kids

Then you look at the other LEAs that are shamed for failing their kids
and discover that many also have good 6th forms in neighbouring LEAs

so the schools are NOT failing the kids
just the Sutton Trust does not know how to read a map
again

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Talkinpeece · 14/12/2018 16:22

No, you are.
Clavinova's post shows that they do an amazing job of getting bright kids into top unis.
What is your problem with them?

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Bowchicawowow · 14/12/2018 16:34

I don’t have a problem with anyone or any college. I do have a problem with you saying there is no north/south education divide. Are you honestly saying that kids in Wigan or Doncaster or any place similar have exactly the same life chances as kids in Hampshire?

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Talkinpeece · 14/12/2018 16:43

I have no idea
and that was not what I started this thread about

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Bowchicawowow · 14/12/2018 16:45

In one of your posts you said you doubted there was a north/south divide. Are we not allowed to respond to that?

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