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Is he avoidant, or simply not ready for a relationship?

28 replies

YourOpalStork · 24/07/2026 22:48

Evening all

I started dating a man in his late 30s, as a woman in her late 20s, in February. We were exclusive pretty quickly and have seen each other twice a week most weeks since.

He is kind, caring and I am so attracted to him. All was going well, some mild miscommunications along the way until he started to raise alarm bells in my head by saying he is not ready for a relationship as he is a year post divorce as still has some work to do on himself. I was uncertain as to how I felt but later reflected that I liked the answer and honesty. He has a little daughter and honestly I’m in no rush to gain a girlfriend title. The conversation about this brought us closer and it felt lovely.

10 days later, he didn’t reply for a day so I called the next day and said i hope all is ok, just let me know if you’ve had a change of heart about seeing me.

He replied “ I’m really sorry that I didn’t text or call you. But this is for your good as well.” I was confused by this. For context we work in the same large company (2000 plus employees) in different departments. He is high up but would have no jurisdiction over my progression and I’m shortly moving onto a new company anyway. I wondered if perhaps his ex wife had found out. I know he had a hard week last week as he worked seven days to resolve a big issue at work ( he’s a manager) and he has an ill Mum who lives abroad, he mostly solo parents and works hard hours. Sometimes if he is finding things tough he prefers to be alone. He had rung me to explain he felt flat and stressed due to these things and we had a lovely phone call. I offered to support but said I understood if he’d rather be alone.

Anyway, he asked me how I was and how I was spending my annual leave. I explained and said I want to see you, he said I want to see you as well but “it will have to wait for now.”
I sent him my remaining availability and he sent noted with a party emoji.

He texted me yesterday to say “I wish I could come over,” I asked him why he couldn’t . I understand he is stressed and worried about confidentiality and protecting me at work, despite the departmental difference, but it feels like he is setting these strict rules and boundaries for himself. I asked him for a guesstimate of when we might be able to see each other or when this is over and he didn’t reply.

I decided to take the bull by the horns today and asked to meet for a coffee, I explained I’m not going to wait around for you if there’s no clarity.

We met and he made me initially anxious, I asked him if I should be worried professionally and he assured me I should not but I’m still anxious. I’m an inpatient lady and perhaps not great with uncertainty. However I can’t help but feel his style is avoidant and can’t comprehend why he prefers to handle both professional and private matters alone. It’s the biggest thing that puts me off him.

He explained he hopes to tell me all about this in the future and that he really misses me and he has found this really hard. He said good things come to those who wait and he believes something good will come. To be honest as I reflect on this I find this patronising, is he trying to elude to it progressing or just being vague? it feels like my patience is being tested and he knows that’s my weakness. I texted him this evening to say I will leave him alone, no calls, no texts.

Honestly I am so bewildered.
Should I
A) sack it all off and find someone closer in age anyway who is more straightforward and keen to make me their girlfriend
B) wait for him even if it’s weeks as he’s lovely and it’s good to be independent
C) start to view it as casual

Can anyone confirm whether he is avoidant or if some people simply tackle things independently and that’s not necessarily avoidance. I can’t relate to it.

Thanks so much x

OP posts:
anotherhamsandwich · 24/07/2026 22:53

I can't discern his inner self on the basis of a post. But he's not being clear. Are you supposed to be on a break, have you permanently split or what? It's fair to want to know.

I would text asking him the above, and if he doesn't reply or fudges it, I'd tell him that that's answered my question. I would then stop contact with him for the moment. You're still being very available and allowing him to treat you off-handedly.

ETA: just reread the bit you texted him this evening. I'd stick to that and leave him alone.

pornstarmartinilover · 24/07/2026 22:58

It does sound like he is being avoidant but I wouldn’t be able to say for certain. I think it’s really unfair to keep you hanging on like this. He needs to communicate with you exactly what he is thinking and what he wants.

WarthogWoman · 24/07/2026 22:58

It doesn’t really matter. Stop talking to him and move on

WallaceinAnderland · 24/07/2026 23:03

Sounds like he's being honest. He said that he's happy with a casual situation but not ready for a relationship. You are the rebound so it probably won't last.

ThatCheeseNeedsEating · 24/07/2026 23:10

Why can't he tell you now, not in the future, about what's going on instead of leaving you hanging? Personally, I couldn't be arsed with such behaviour. I like people to be upfront and open. He's old enough to have matured enough to be able to tell you where you stand with him. Up to you but I'd dump and move on.

summitfever · 24/07/2026 23:10

Absolute waste of space. Don’t waste your time trying to diagnose disinterest

DancingInPuddles · 24/07/2026 23:13

Is this truly what you want from a relationship? Like, if you made a list of what you wanted and how you’d like to feel, is this it? Don’t settle for it if it’s not.

DancingInPuddles · 24/07/2026 23:14

summitfever · 24/07/2026 23:10

Absolute waste of space. Don’t waste your time trying to diagnose disinterest

This is brilliant. I say this as someone who has done just that but I’ve never seen it written so succinctly,

StrawberryMatchaLatte · 24/07/2026 23:14

He's not into it. Stop wasting your time. He's not suddenly going to give you what you want. But you can move on and find someone who wants to be with you just as much as you want to be with them.

TheGardenPond · 24/07/2026 23:17

A

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 24/07/2026 23:17

He's not into you.

Guys who are keen make it amply clear, you would be in no doubt.

It's not because of you, it's because of him. And it doesn't matter why he's like that. He just is. Don't stick around flogging yourself to get him to look at you.

Erase his number and move on. There are other men who will leave you in no doubt that they are interested.

And btw, being a single woman is much much better than running after a cagey problematic twat who is stringing you along.

Ruthietuthie · 24/07/2026 23:20

In the early days of getting together, you should be thinking "Oh, I really like him!" "Oh, this is so nice!" "This is GREAT!" rather than trying to psychologize his behavior.
Who cares how we might label his attachment style?
Find someone nearer your age without the drama of a recent divorce, a child, and work complications. You can do much better.
And don't use ChatGPT on your posts. It rots your brain.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 24/07/2026 23:23

No calls, no texts is best. Also block him and delete all his messages.

If his situation is genuine and there is some sort of crisis going on, he'll get back in touch somehow and open up.

Chances are though this is just who he is. Men like this aren't worth our time or energy.

PashaMinaMio · 24/07/2026 23:23

I agree, you’re wasting your time.
Back off.
Move on.

If you can handle it, treat it as casual with a mindset to dump him properly if someone better asks you out. The weekend is here .. get yourself back out there.

ThisCalmUmberCrab · 24/07/2026 23:27

I get it. You don’t want the ambiguity. The problem is a lot of men won’t tell you they don’t want to see you any more … they just start fading out so you eventually pull the plug… because they don’t wanna be seen as the bad guy.

He’s too complicated - theres a lot of baggage already there that you don’t need to be dealing with. You’re young - lots of great guys out there who don’t blow hot and cold.

PixelatedLunchbox · 24/07/2026 23:34

OP unless you don’t value your time or dignity, just stop chasing this slippery eel. He’s just not that into you. End of.

Missj25 · 25/07/2026 00:14

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 24/07/2026 23:17

He's not into you.

Guys who are keen make it amply clear, you would be in no doubt.

It's not because of you, it's because of him. And it doesn't matter why he's like that. He just is. Don't stick around flogging yourself to get him to look at you.

Erase his number and move on. There are other men who will leave you in no doubt that they are interested.

And btw, being a single woman is much much better than running after a cagey problematic twat who is stringing you along.

She’s not a single mom .
It’s the guy that she is seeing that has a little girl .

Bossbear · 25/07/2026 00:23

He's just not that into you, sadly

Missj25 · 25/07/2026 00:27

YourOpalStork · 24/07/2026 22:48

Evening all

I started dating a man in his late 30s, as a woman in her late 20s, in February. We were exclusive pretty quickly and have seen each other twice a week most weeks since.

He is kind, caring and I am so attracted to him. All was going well, some mild miscommunications along the way until he started to raise alarm bells in my head by saying he is not ready for a relationship as he is a year post divorce as still has some work to do on himself. I was uncertain as to how I felt but later reflected that I liked the answer and honesty. He has a little daughter and honestly I’m in no rush to gain a girlfriend title. The conversation about this brought us closer and it felt lovely.

10 days later, he didn’t reply for a day so I called the next day and said i hope all is ok, just let me know if you’ve had a change of heart about seeing me.

He replied “ I’m really sorry that I didn’t text or call you. But this is for your good as well.” I was confused by this. For context we work in the same large company (2000 plus employees) in different departments. He is high up but would have no jurisdiction over my progression and I’m shortly moving onto a new company anyway. I wondered if perhaps his ex wife had found out. I know he had a hard week last week as he worked seven days to resolve a big issue at work ( he’s a manager) and he has an ill Mum who lives abroad, he mostly solo parents and works hard hours. Sometimes if he is finding things tough he prefers to be alone. He had rung me to explain he felt flat and stressed due to these things and we had a lovely phone call. I offered to support but said I understood if he’d rather be alone.

Anyway, he asked me how I was and how I was spending my annual leave. I explained and said I want to see you, he said I want to see you as well but “it will have to wait for now.”
I sent him my remaining availability and he sent noted with a party emoji.

He texted me yesterday to say “I wish I could come over,” I asked him why he couldn’t . I understand he is stressed and worried about confidentiality and protecting me at work, despite the departmental difference, but it feels like he is setting these strict rules and boundaries for himself. I asked him for a guesstimate of when we might be able to see each other or when this is over and he didn’t reply.

I decided to take the bull by the horns today and asked to meet for a coffee, I explained I’m not going to wait around for you if there’s no clarity.

We met and he made me initially anxious, I asked him if I should be worried professionally and he assured me I should not but I’m still anxious. I’m an inpatient lady and perhaps not great with uncertainty. However I can’t help but feel his style is avoidant and can’t comprehend why he prefers to handle both professional and private matters alone. It’s the biggest thing that puts me off him.

He explained he hopes to tell me all about this in the future and that he really misses me and he has found this really hard. He said good things come to those who wait and he believes something good will come. To be honest as I reflect on this I find this patronising, is he trying to elude to it progressing or just being vague? it feels like my patience is being tested and he knows that’s my weakness. I texted him this evening to say I will leave him alone, no calls, no texts.

Honestly I am so bewildered.
Should I
A) sack it all off and find someone closer in age anyway who is more straightforward and keen to make me their girlfriend
B) wait for him even if it’s weeks as he’s lovely and it’s good to be independent
C) start to view it as casual

Can anyone confirm whether he is avoidant or if some people simply tackle things independently and that’s not necessarily avoidance. I can’t relate to it.

Thanks so much x

Firstly, it’s not possible for you to view seeing him as casual, because it’s very clear from your post that you like him .
If you agree to a casual relationship with him, you will end up feeling a lot worse than you are feeling now .

He seems to have a lot on his plate .
Give it time & space , stop contacting him .
As I said you like him , so don’t entertain anything with him unless it’s him asking you how would you feel about dating & giving things a shot .

Darragon · 25/07/2026 05:06

All was going well, some mild miscommunications along the way until he started to raise alarm bells in my head by saying he is not ready for a relationship as he is a year post divorce as still has some work to do on himself. I was uncertain as to how I felt but later reflected that I liked the answer and honesty. He has a little daughter and honestly I’m in no rush to gain a girlfriend title. The conversation about this brought us closer and it felt lovely.
This is bizarre. You have completely misunderstood. He doesn’t want a relationship with you right now, tried to tell you nicely, and not only were you not listening, but you decided it “brought you closer together” er… whuttt?! He isn’t “avoidant” he’s trying not to jump into something with you but you’re not respecting that and leaving him alone. You need to work on understanding what people are saying to you.

Dhejeje · 25/07/2026 05:21

Why are you chasing this guy so hard?

I'll never understand why women are so eager to get into relationships with men so much older than them, especially in 2026 when "older man" is no longer synonymous with "more power and status than me".

You're in your 20s. Hes freshly divorced with a kid. Go and find a cute boy your own age instead of lumbering yourself with somekne who has baggage and isnt all that into you

Rondayvu · 25/07/2026 08:09

No man is worth this amount of stress, overthinking and internal drama. Leave him to it and find someone with less chaos in their lives. Your life is too short and too precious to sit around waiting for a man x

category12 · 25/07/2026 08:16

he is not ready for a relationship as he is a year post divorce as still has some work to do on himself. I was uncertain as to how I felt but later reflected that I liked the answer and honesty. He has a little daughter and honestly I’m in no rush to gain a girlfriend title. The conversation about this brought us closer and it felt lovely.

I have no idea why you felt closer to him after he told you he's not ready for a relationship. I have no idea why you liked the honesty of being told he wants something casual, yet seem determined to make it something else.

What's to be confused about?

He literally told you no relationship.

StrawberryMatchaLatte · 26/07/2026 10:47

Missj25 · 25/07/2026 00:14

She’s not a single mom .
It’s the guy that she is seeing that has a little girl .

Sne didn't mention single mom. She said single woman.

gannett · 26/07/2026 11:02

I'm not sure where the ambiguity in his behaviour is. He told you he's not ready for a relationship and he told you he has a lot on his plate (work, sick mum, solo parenting). He's up for a casual thing, and if I was too then I'd appreciate the openness. However within a couple of paragraphs you go from

honestly I’m in no rush to gain a girlfriend title

to

it feels like my patience is being tested and he knows that’s my weakness

so you're the one sending mixed messages - to us, let alone to him.

If you want the casual fling that he's offered then carry on. If you want more commitment then move on. Learn to actually listen to what people are telling you.