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He’s cheating and I’m a mug right?

36 replies

pinkpepperclove · 24/08/2024 23:48

With and vague glimmer of hope that I could be in the wrong I am resulting to asking strangers on the internet

Husband sends completely out of character WhatsApp with two X X which he never does

I instantly demand to know who it was meant for. He flat out denied he sent it and he’s saying it’s a hack. Timeline so has it that he was with his dad on the way home. His dad swears blind he wasn’t on his phone to send the message.

so tell me tales of this actually being a possibility or that I’m hearing for a divorce with a newborn.

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cupcaske123 · 24/08/2024 23:51

It's unlikely to be a hack. Have you checked his WhatsApp messages?

pinkpepperclove · 24/08/2024 23:54

cupcaske123 · 24/08/2024 23:51

It's unlikely to be a hack. Have you checked his WhatsApp messages?

Flashed his screen. “See nothing” Obviously deleted them, there was enough time too

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theduchessofspork · 24/08/2024 23:56

That is suspicious - and he appears to be a poor liar. I’d have a dig.

cupcaske123 · 24/08/2024 23:59

pinkpepperclove · 24/08/2024 23:54

Flashed his screen. “See nothing” Obviously deleted them, there was enough time too

If you have a chat backup enabled, you can recover deleted messages. On Android: WhatsApp automatically backs up your chats to Google Drive by default. On iPhone: WhatsApp backs up to iCloud.

Bemusedandconfusedagain · 24/08/2024 23:59

But don't deleted WhatsApp show as deleted? They don't just disappear

2sisters · 25/08/2024 00:01

Uninstall WhatsApp and reinstall it. It will install to the last backup.

HappiestSleeping · 25/08/2024 00:06

Technically, it is a possibility that this happened. It is not likely though.

pinkpepperclove · 25/08/2024 00:09

cupcaske123 · 24/08/2024 23:59

If you have a chat backup enabled, you can recover deleted messages. On Android: WhatsApp automatically backs up your chats to Google Drive by default. On iPhone: WhatsApp backs up to iCloud.

He’s on Android. I could easily get into his Google drive. Where am I looking?

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pinkpepperclove · 25/08/2024 00:10

Bemusedandconfusedagain · 24/08/2024 23:59

But don't deleted WhatsApp show as deleted? They don't just disappear

The whole chat with another person?

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pinkpepperclove · 25/08/2024 00:11

2sisters · 25/08/2024 00:01

Uninstall WhatsApp and reinstall it. It will install to the last backup.

I will never manage that without him knowing.

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FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 25/08/2024 00:14

Bemusedandconfusedagain · 24/08/2024 23:59

But don't deleted WhatsApp show as deleted? They don't just disappear

A deleted message only shows as deleted if you delete it for everyone, so whoever you sent it to will see a message has been deleted. If it's only deleted from the screen of the person who sent it, nothing shows that it was deleted.

cupcaske123 · 25/08/2024 00:14

pinkpepperclove · 25/08/2024 00:09

He’s on Android. I could easily get into his Google drive. Where am I looking?

Open the Google Drive app and sign in
Tap Menu > Backups
WhatsApp backups will appear in the list if they are saved to your Google Account

pinkpepperclove · 25/08/2024 00:16

cupcaske123 · 25/08/2024 00:14

Open the Google Drive app and sign in
Tap Menu > Backups
WhatsApp backups will appear in the list if they are saved to your Google Account

Will I be able to read messages from there? I’m scared it might prompt his phone

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Bemusedandconfusedagain · 25/08/2024 00:21

pinkpepperclove · 25/08/2024 00:10

The whole chat with another person?

You think he accidentally sent you a message. He says he didn't send it and it's a glitch. If you're right the message will show as sent or deleted in his conversation with you. If he's right there will be no sent message to you.

pinkpepperclove · 25/08/2024 00:23

Bemusedandconfusedagain · 25/08/2024 00:21

You think he accidentally sent you a message. He says he didn't send it and it's a glitch. If you're right the message will show as sent or deleted in his conversation with you. If he's right there will be no sent message to you.

Oh it’s there! He’s saying it’s a hack and not him who sent it

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Box24L · 25/08/2024 00:23

You can delete the “message deleted” banner. I’ve done it.

My WhatsApp only backs up once a week, so any messages between back ups aren’t saved.

Any chance he has “locked chats”?

slipperypenguin · 25/08/2024 00:24

How bad was the message?

Ringerphone · 25/08/2024 00:26

You can’t hack WhatsApp it’s encrypted end to end

Ringerphone · 25/08/2024 00:27

And Occam’s razor. Why would anyone hack (if it were possible which it’s not) WhatsApp to send a fairly innocuous message

Portfun24 · 25/08/2024 00:30

WhatsApp is encrypted, it can't be hacked.

pinkpepperclove · 25/08/2024 00:38

Ringerphone · 25/08/2024 00:26

You can’t hack WhatsApp it’s encrypted end to end

This is what I thought.

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pinkpepperclove · 25/08/2024 00:40

slipperypenguin · 25/08/2024 00:24

How bad was the message?

And I quote: “Lol very you X X”

totally out of his normal chat style, but still…

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pinkpepperclove · 25/08/2024 00:55

Ok. So what am I demanding he shows me on WhatsApp tomorrow morning when we inevitably get into a huge argument? He’s left me with the baby which I asked him to do as I’m obviously very upset. I want to stun him and put him on the spot.

online Google drive has no results. Doesn’t look like he has linked the accounts. Which he’s a moron with computers so isn’t sus.

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Changingeveryday · 25/08/2024 00:55

But did the message make sense- I know he’s saying he didn’t send it, but in context of any chat you were having, did the response make sense? People are saying it’s unlikely but I’ve read lots about WhatsApp being hacked and messages sent that weren’t sent by the user- Google it.

Ringerphone · 25/08/2024 00:56

People are saying it’s unlikely but I’ve read lots about WhatsApp being hacked and messages sent that weren’t sent by the user- Google it.

proof please