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Kitchens

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HalleLouja · 27/09/2012 22:05

Ok we probably are asking too much but want a new kitchen at a good price. We have a quote and the fitting alone was £2.7k (minimum) subject to a site visit it might be nearer (£3.6k).

Does that seem reasonable? Its for a Kitchen Collection kitchen with the units made up already. The total price (excluding appliances) is £10.5k minimum. Its quite a big kitchen but we are having laminate worksurfaces. Price excludes floor, which we are having tiled.

Am looking at Ikea kitchens and trying to understand what the total price will be.

Sorry for all the questions. Am a kitchen newby. We were originally looking at just having it revamped and may still go down this route.

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BertramBertram · 27/09/2012 22:25

Try and get a few quotes. We are in the process of looking at new kitchens & the prices from recommended builders are almost half of those from magnet etc.

2 builders we spoke to said they would charge more to fit an Ikea kitchen a there is no service void at the back of the cupboards for pipes etc and their cupboards & work tops are an odd size.

annalouiseh · 27/09/2012 22:26

Depends where you are in the country for fitting, but starting at 2.7k sounds alot anywhere. this include the floor also?
The kck kitchen will be better quality than ikea by a way.
the cost of a kitchen depends on the doors you have selected and lots of other parts. Hard to say if cost is good with out seeing what you have been quoted on

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HalleLouja · 27/09/2012 22:33

We are in Herts.

I like the look of the Kitchen Collection one but think the fitting fee is dear. Wasn't sure if I was being tight.

Am going to get some more quotes and see where we are after those. Might let the original guy know that we are looking at other options. Maybe he will knock his price down. There will be no rewiring or anything. Just installation and taking away of old kitchen.

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fussychica · 28/09/2012 09:05

Wow I'm hoping to spend £3k on the whole kitchenShock

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HalleLouja · 28/09/2012 09:08

I was hoping to spend £10k including putting the floor in. £3k for fitting seems extreme to me but I have no real idea.

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Spirael · 28/09/2012 10:38

We had our kitchen redone at the start of the year. I don't know the exact break down, but it cost £10k in all.

That involved a heck of a lot of work - ripping out the existing kitchen, blocking a fireplace, new electrics and gas pipes, new lighting, building a utility room/cupboard under the stairs and replastering/painting the entire room.

We had quite a lot of units, some appliances, laminate worksurfaces and laminate flooring.

HTHs!

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HalleLouja · 28/09/2012 10:55

Thanks Spirael. We just need ours taking out and putting back in. The existing kitchen is 6 years old but is pants.

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Fizzylemonade · 28/09/2012 11:17

We are having a kitchen extension done next year and we are having an Ikea kitchen. If you use their on-line planner it will list out everything that you have picked and the cost. Every time you pick a cupboard there is a changeable list on the right hand side to choose the door front, handles, worktop etc. It may help you to get an idea of cost.

I have researched the fitting cost which for our kitchen will be £2k+ and it isn't a big kitchen. As I and Dh are good at DIY we are actually installing the units ourselves but paying for someone to put in the worktops etc.

We revamped the kitchen in the last house and replaced door fronts ourselves and paid for a kitchen fitter to replace the worktops, sink and hob.

Ikea units don't have a service void at the back of the unit so all pipework has to be dropped to below the unit level or run in the wall. This isn't a problem for us as the wall with all the plumbing on is the one being knocked through to the extension so it has to be moved.

The best thing you can do is ring round several kitchen fitters and get them to quote you for the work.

We had an MFI ktichen fitted 9 years ago and that cost £1700 for fitting. It is a lot of work, you could save money ripping the kitchen out yourselves.

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HalleLouja · 01/10/2012 22:01

We found a website called diy-kitchens.com looks like they are legit and make the same units as we liked in Kitchen Collection. I think the doors might be by Second Nature from what I have seen on the internet. Its a fraction of the price the original kitchen fitter charged and still the same blum mechanisms.

Sorry just brain dumping. Has anyone had any experience with www.diy-kitchens.com

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annalouiseh · 01/10/2012 22:53

There part of second nature (pws)
gloss doors are vinyl though except the handleless, that are lacquered
8mm back panel on units
will be less than KCollection but make sure you add on all there extras

mimiasovitch · 01/10/2012 23:30

It's definitely worth getting some quotes. Wickes quoted £3000 just for fitting our new kitchen. I had it done by a local chap for £2000 - including plastering walls and ceiling, painting, plumbing, floor tiles and new back door. I dread to think what wickes would have added on for all that.

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HalleLouja · 02/10/2012 08:30

Thanks Anna so are Kitchen Collection park of Second Nature too?

Am going to get my plumber to give me a quote as he fits kitchens in posh houses round the corner so can go and see how good a job he does quite easily.

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maturenanny · 02/10/2012 11:25

Why don't you try b and q, we managed to bring in a fairly big kitchen inc fitting, tiling and bespoke fridge cabinet for £5000, this included a built in microwave, range cooker and dishwasher.
It's true they do charge more for fitting but the guy we had was amazing and totally trustworthy, been a kitchen fitter for 20 yrs plus!
We have a solid oak door on our cabinets too.

We did pay our own electrician and builder to do the prep ie plastering and switches/ring main for cooker but was fairly quick process, plus it had a two yr garuntee which was really good as we did have to get a couple of bits adjusted after.
He also spotted we had room for a bigger wall cabinet so swapped that over for us, found a lovely side panel for our fridge cabinet rather than a plain one.

Defo shop around though
Good luck!

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HalleLouja · 02/10/2012 11:44

No way would I get a B&Q kitchen as that is what I have at the moment. My friend had an awful time with their fitters too.

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fossil97 · 02/10/2012 12:03

Our kitchen is diy-kitchens. They are an excellent product and very solid - the same as supplied to many expensive showrooms.

You do have to work out exactly what you want, design it yourself and specify all the components as you really have to get it all in one delivery, they have a minimum order and delivery charge is for a lorry. that's the diy bit Grin. But if you can cope with that, there's lots of choice.

annalouiseh · 02/10/2012 16:01

no......
kitchen collection buy there doors off 2nd nature (pws)
Pws is a distributor and 2nd nature is what they call there door collection side of things
There wood doors are nice but a few of there modern doors are not so great on the quality so always get some samples

MrsMiniversCharlady · 02/10/2012 16:07

I think if you can source individual tradesmen and project manage it yourself you can save a huge amount of money. We used a joiner to fit our kitchen who charged £130 a day. We put the units together and he just fitted them to the walls and did the worktops. It took him less than 2 days. The builder we were using got people in to do the electrical work and plumbing, but this wasn't more than a day's labour for each (approx £200 a day each). So a total of about £650 and it's quite a big kitchen too.

queribus · 02/10/2012 17:46

We've just had a quote to fit a Howdens kitchen - £4k. And the kitchen itself is priced at £9K including over £3k for appliances.

All this seems very expensive to me, but am I being realistic?

TalkinPeace2 · 02/10/2012 17:50

Ikea kitchen, 36 units in total
£800 to a chippy to assemble and fit.

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HalleLouja · 02/10/2012 20:00

I might try this lady to do a design or find someone local.

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PigletJohn · 02/10/2012 20:20

I too say, get individual tradesmen in if you can. Kitchen fitters are notorious for shoddy and non-compliant electrical and plumbing work, especially out of sight behind the units. A pro plasterer/tiler/joiner/electrician/plumber will do a better job and may cost less too. Few jobs in a kitchen will take them more than a day each.

I had a good look round suppliers, but had to go to Magnet because the only door I liked was Caldo Walnut.

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HalleLouja · 02/10/2012 20:24

Our plumber is an electrician etc etc and doesn't seem shoddy so if he gives us a reasonable quote I think we might go with him.

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libelulle · 02/10/2012 20:25

800 quid for our kitchen fitting too (done beautifully), and 7 grand for an extremely posh (and enormous - 16 units) schuller kitchen from these guys www.pricemykitchen.co.uk/ who were truly excellent.

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HalleLouja · 02/10/2012 21:54

All of you getting cheap fitting none of you live in the Herts area by any chance [clutches at straws]?

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sausagesandwich34 · 02/10/2012 22:32

if you pay a company to fit a kitchen then 3k is actually pretty cheap

the reason they charge so much (or part of the reason) is that they use qualified tradesmen for the individual jobs -so a chippy will do cabinets, a tiler will do the tiling etc

they also project manage it so the trades are on site at the right time to get the job done quickly

if you get your own seperate tradesmen then you will have to organise them, if they are good they are going to be busy so the actual time of the job will be dragged out

plus if you have a problem with the plumbing which then affects the worktops (as an example) who is going to sort it out for you?

lots of people swear by ikea but the lack of the service gap means that the inside of the units can be messy, plus the backs of the units don't have full height panels (so you get spiders in your cupboards)