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Still not received year six SATs results

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Estherbr · 19/07/2017 11:16

Hello. I am new on this site, I have been a browser for quite a while but never needed an account until now.

I am very frustrated with my DD school. I rang the school a few days after the SATs results came out to ask my DD results, they said something about collating the results and not giving them out until the following Monday.

My daughter returned home from school without the results and stated that the teacher had spoken to her about her results, but she did not state whether or not she passed, DD left very confused and anxious.

I called the school again and they refused to tell me DD results over the phone, the person claiming 'they did not have the information personally' but the results would be sent out in the post that week (last week).

Today i STILL do not have the results. This mornings post came with Mondays dates, nothing from the school. I rang the school once again and once again they are refusing to give me the results stating that they dont give results over the phone only post.

Absolute farce, the other parents are in the same position I am but parents with children in other schools have had their results almost two weeks.

Ia this even legal? If anyone can make a suggestion it would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

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gillybeanz · 19/07/2017 11:23

We got SATS results on the report at the end of term.
They aren't really for the child but a result for the school.
Why are you so bothered?
I don't think I've ever heard a parent bothered or so eager to find out results. This might be the parents I've known though and our area.

GuestWW · 19/07/2017 11:52

@Estherbr both my DD and I were keen to see the results, our school 'teased' them a little it felt. They had the results in school on 5th July and suggested the children would get the results on the 7th, then the 9th with school reports but eventually sent them out on 10th (so we have had them over a week). I don't know many local schools here that haven't released them yet.

Everyone in our area was keen to find out, the children and teachers worked hard for them and spent a week being examined so I think it is understandable.

I don't see any reason why they would withhold them - do you have a report before Friday? I think it would be a weak leadership team that sent them out on the last day of term knowing they would not be in school to answer questions.

admission · 19/07/2017 12:35

Maybe time to ask in writing to the head teacher whether the SATs results will be released to parents before the end of term. At least they will have to respond to that.
There is no logical reason not to send the information out unless they are putting the results together with other information they are sending out to parents of year 6. Failing that you do have to wonder whether there is a reason why they are not giving them out till the last minute.

2anddone · 19/07/2017 14:22

Our school gives them out in the last couple of days of term. This gives parents a chance to talk to parents if really necessary and a chance for staff to collate data before giving them out. The results are more for the school than anything else they really aren't important and there is no rush for what they say as unlike GCSEs or A Levels they don't determine whether or not you can move to the next step in education!!

FrayedHem · 19/07/2017 17:03

I know DS1's school queried some of the SATs marking, but even with that they released the results last Thursday. It may be they are sending them as part of the end of year report, but they should just have told you that in the first place. I'd do as admission has advised and see what happens.

BubblesBuddy · 19/07/2017 17:21

Well actually they do determine a certain amount about the next stage of education especially if the next school sets and they are worried about a child accessing ks3 subjects.

Feenie · 19/07/2017 17:56

There isn't any data to collate that would delay a school giving out the results. Even transferring them to a reporting sheet would take an hour per class - tops.

It is a statutory requirement to report them before the end of term.

noblegiraffe · 19/07/2017 19:28

I read in the news today that some primaries are having their SATs results voided because of cheating, so the kids won't get a SATs score. Perhaps your school is being investigated?

Feenie · 19/07/2017 21:13

Have you got a link, noble?

Most investigations take several months from previous reports.

Pud2 · 20/07/2017 08:18

Is it even legal?

There's nothing set in law!!

Strawberrybubblebath · 20/07/2017 22:24

I expect we will get ours tomorrow with the school reports. Is there a particular reason/worry you need your results early? I do not think there is any law/legal ruling to say when schools must give them out.

SavoyCabbage · 20/07/2017 22:26

A school I go to had their results witheld due to allegations of cheating. They had been cheating and a TA had reported it. The year sixes were never given their results and the head and the deputy were suspended and eventually fired.

ReinettePompadour · 20/07/2017 22:40

None of the local primary schools to me give out SATs results. Theyre not intended to be for parents theyre for evaluation of the teaching at the school although most other schools do give out results in some form or other it seems.

I've never received any for my children. Is there a specific reason you feel that you need them? Do you feel that they would highlight an issue you've not been informed about? Are you concerned about your childs progress?

Feenie · 20/07/2017 23:02

If your school is a state school, they have no choice - reporting the test results is a statutory requirement.

None of the local primary schools to me give out SATs results.

Simply not true, I'm afraid, unless they're all private schools.

Feenie · 20/07/2017 23:04

There's nothing set in law!!

I'm afraid there is statutory requirements are legally binding.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/2017-key-stage-2-assessment-and-reporting-arrangements-ara

Feenie · 20/07/2017 23:14

I do not think there is any law/legal ruling to say when schools must give them out.

Yes, there is - they are required to do so by the end of term - see above statutory requirements.

It's interesting that so many parents don't know this is a requirement!

user789653241 · 21/07/2017 06:11

Feenie, that's why teachers like you and mrz are so precious on MN, informing us parents with vital information.
Thank you for helping us again this school year, and have a nice summer!

Feenie · 21/07/2017 06:48

Thanks, Irvine - you too

cantkeepawayforever · 21/07/2017 06:55

Reinette, just to be clear - you have had multiple children go through Y6 and have never received SATs results?

Or are you referring to other school years? Other years may do what used to be called 'Optional SATs' [no longer valid or appropriate due to the changes in the curriculum], or other end of year tests, and such results didn't have to be, and IME weren't, given out to parents.

However Y6 is different, as PP have said.

Honkyzeke · 21/07/2017 07:03

Our local school (an academy) doesn't give out individual results to all pupils, we had results for year six as a whole but only parents whos children achieved exceptional results were given their individual marks.

cantkeepawayforever · 21/07/2017 07:08

The rules - that the end KS2 report must include the pupils' scaled scores - applies to academies as well as to LA state primaries. See the link that PP provided.

cantkeepawayforever · 21/07/2017 07:09

Where the document says 'must', that is supported by law. Where it says 'should', it is not statutory.

It says that all pupils at academies must be registered for tests, and it says that scaled scores must be reported o parents - so the school is acting illegally.

SaltyMyDear · 21/07/2017 07:11

IME schools that give out Sat results on the last day of term do so because they don't want the parents to have a chance to bring it up with school.

I think that's what's happening here. Some of the results are bad so they're delaying the results so you can't speak to school about it.

dazedandconfused12 · 21/07/2017 07:20

I've been asking our school for the overall ks2 says results but so far have not been given answer... our child is not in yr6 but I am interested because last year overall it was before half of national average so I am seeking reassurance they have improved. We have other concerns about the school too.. So far I have been told the overall result is not yet available. This must be total BS.

cantkeepawayforever · 21/07/2017 07:31

I don't think - I am willing to be corrected - that there is a statutory requirement to report whole school results to parents, although most schools do as a matter of routine.

If multiple papers are being queried, which could affect the whole school result significantly (in smaller schools, each pupil can be a substantial %), then I can see that the school might choose not to release overall school levels until the remarks have been completed.

I don't know if there is a final date by which all results are published - must be some point the following year, as that is when league tables etc are released.

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