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To get signed off for this? **Content warning: TFMR**

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Iusedtobedontcall · 13/02/2023 22:05

I found out today that our much wanted baby has Down’s syndrome. I am going to have a termination after considering the impact on our existing children and our ages- 42 and 40. I’m heartbroken and I think I’m going to need quite a while off work to recover emotionally and from the procedure. AIBU? Title edited by MNHQ

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GingleAllTheWay2022 · 14/02/2023 09:01

You're entitled to all the time off you need. There's a physical and emotional side to deal with here. Everyone grieves differently, so don't let anyone make you feel bad about doing what you need to do.

Iusedtobedontcall · 14/02/2023 09:02

My dc are teens so fairly self sufficient, so at least that means I can get some rest.

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newtb · 14/02/2023 09:12

OP I really feel for you. I had amnio 3 times, first 2 couldn't get a clear sample and then had an irritable uterus. We'd decided before I was pregnant to not continue 'if'.
If you self cert could you say a threatened miscarriage? Not untrue.
Take care and I hope you don't have to go the medical route.

Apollonia1 · 14/02/2023 09:25

I had a TFMR 5 years ago and did not feel able to take a single day off work, to process it and grieve. I still feel resentful of that. So take the time you need.

On my 6th IUI/IVF I finally got pregnant, but at 12 weeks, the NIPT test showed a chromosomal issue incompatible with life. NIPT is only a screening test, not diagnostic, so I had to wait for a CVS and then wait for the results. In parallel I also made arrangements for the termination (complicated since I'm in Ireland and it was illegal then). At 15 weeks, I went to the UK on the Fri night, TFMR on Saturday, home on Sunday and back to work on Monday, traumatised.
I felt I couldn't take any time off, since I needed to keep my leave for the next rounds of IVF (work didn't know I was doing IVF).
3 years and 4 IVFs later I finally had my twins. My story has a happy ending, but I'll never forget how awful it was trying to work as normal as my baby was dying inside me. And I feel guilty that the foetus was just left behind in the UK.

countrypunk · 14/02/2023 09:41

Iusedtobedontcall · 14/02/2023 08:55

She was lovely. She asked me how long I wanted. I think four weeks gives me time and I can see where I am after that. It is a relief in a horrible time.

That's great OP. That gives you some breathing space and you don't have to think about work at all. I hope that provides a little bit of relief for you today. Xx

Iusedtobedontcall · 14/02/2023 09:53

It does give me breathing space to grieve. It’s absolutely barbaric that some women don’t get to choose whether to continue with their pregnancy in some parts of the world.
I will recover from this - I’ve just got to take the time. Still being pregnant doesn’t help as I’m stuck in limbo.

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KimMumsnet · 14/02/2023 09:59

Hi, OP. We hope you don't mind but, as your thread is about a sensitive subject, we thought it would be better suited to Pregnancy Choices than AIBU so we've moved it over now and amended the title slightly.
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LaviniasBigBloomers · 14/02/2023 10:00

That's good your GP has given you what you need.

What would help you most today? Daft film? Wee walk outside? Crawl into bed with a book? Chocolate? Make a little plan for your day (including 'rage cry at 1030am if that's what you need) and rest up.

Iusedtobedontcall · 14/02/2023 10:11

@KimMumsnet I don’t want abortion in my thread title. Could you change it to TMFR. This is a much loved and wanted baby and I find abortion triggering to read.

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pebbles3004 · 14/02/2023 10:12

Iusedtobedontcall · 14/02/2023 10:11

@KimMumsnet I don’t want abortion in my thread title. Could you change it to TMFR. This is a much loved and wanted baby and I find abortion triggering to read.

I second this.

Mammyloveswine · 14/02/2023 10:12

Sending love to you op..ignore the one horribly insensitive poster.

Take as long as you need op, and you are absolutely right to tell people you've lost the baby, you will be grieving and you need to recover physically and mentally.

I'm a teacher too and have been off since we returned to work after Christmas following a sudden and unexpected bereavement. My colleagues have been nothing but supportive and it's made me value my school so much more.

Sending Flowers.

Be kind to yourself op.

AlwaysWorriedAboutEverything · 14/02/2023 10:17

pebbles3004 · 14/02/2023 10:12

I second this.

Me too. I don't feel that what I went through was an abortion.

I'm pleased your GP was good, OP. Wishing you all the best. Also if you ever want to chat to someone who has been in the same situation, my inbox is always open.

Iusedtobedontcall · 14/02/2023 10:17

Thank you - I’ve asked for the title to be changed - I do think that should have been run past me first. I appreciate the topic may be triggering to others but that title change has really upset me who is actually going through it.

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Mammyloveswine · 14/02/2023 10:26

Iusedtobedontcall · 14/02/2023 10:17

Thank you - I’ve asked for the title to be changed - I do think that should have been run past me first. I appreciate the topic may be triggering to others but that title change has really upset me who is actually going through it.

Absolutely agree op! I think mumsnet have been incredibly insensitive here and I'm quite appalled!

KimMumsnet · 14/02/2023 10:26

Hi, OP. We've changed your title as requested now - so sorry you were upset by that.
We do wish you all the best with this difficult time and are glad you're finding some support here.
Flowers

Iusedtobedontcall · 14/02/2023 11:26

Thank you - I appreciate that. Feel ok - just waiting to hear from the screening midwife about next steps now.

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HoneyPea · 14/02/2023 12:05

@Iusedtobedontcall How far along are you?

It's such a tough situation to be in. I was where you are now exactly 1 year ago. We had a high NT and 1:7 chance for T21, then a high result NIPT by then I was too far along for a CVS so had to have an Amnio. Amnio confirmed T21 and other serious issues including heart problems. Baby was given a very low chance of surviving past 24weeks and if she did she would probably be in pain. Even with all this information we found it so hard to make a decision. However I saw it as I would take the pain of loosing my baby so she would never ever have to experience any pain or suffering. I still feel guilt and miss my baby every day. I gave birth at 18weeks through TFMR.

Iusedtobedontcall · 14/02/2023 12:57

@HoneyPea I am 12 weeks - went for the early screening privately. I’m sorry to hear what you went through. I’m up and down - it comes in waves. I’m starting to show already and don’t want any awkward questions so just going to rest and try to recover. It’s something you don’t think will happen to you, but it has to happen to someone.

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HoneyPea · 14/02/2023 13:09

@Iusedtobedontcall You will be feeling up and down for a long time to come unfortunately. Even though I know we made the best decision for our little girl I still feel guilty and wish it could have been different every single day.

Are you having a CVS? Just be aware some hospitals don't give you a choice between medical and surgical. I had to have medical but not sure if it was due to how far along I was.

Also my husband is a teacher. He had about 3weeks off after the TFMR and then had a phased return when he went back for a week.

I am currently 10wks and am having a NIPT through the NHS tomorrow. The stress of it happening again is huge.

Hope9 · 14/02/2023 13:50

YANBU OP. It would have been a heartbreaking decision to make and not one you would have had to make lightly. You are thinking of your existing children and that is not selfish one bit. I am so sorry to hear you are experiencing this after Miscarrying last year too.

You are so much stronger than you believe. Take time for yourself and spend with family 💛

Iusedtobedontcall · 14/02/2023 15:52

Thank you. I’ve been up and down today. Still not heard from the hospital but the midwife did say she wasn’t sure what time it would be. Bought some new bedding and trying to just relax now. Went with DH to pick the step dc up from school and they’ve had me giggling in the car talking about the naughty words they know 😂

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Iusedtobedontcall · 14/02/2023 17:13

Feel awful.

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AWaferThinMint · 14/02/2023 17:18

One of my closest friends went through two TFMR due to what turned out to be a genetic condition. I know it was so so hard, but also she knew it was the right decision. We still remember her two boys each year.

Sending you love and strength.

Iusedtobedontcall · 14/02/2023 17:27

Thank you. I’ve had a cry and my lovely stepdaughter brought me her teddy (I didn’t cry in front of her obviously- she just thought I might like to see teddy!) so I’ve got teddy in bed beside me.

My teens aren’t v huggy so it’s nice to have step dc here.

We were being greedy really - we’ve 5 healthy dc between us.

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HazyDays81 · 14/02/2023 17:49

I’m so sorry you’re going through this, it’s a truly awful time. I made the same heartbreaking decision to TFMR for T21 in September last year. Me and DH were both 41 and we have 3 children already - two with SEN and sadly we couldn’t take the risk if it had been severe.

You were not greedy in any way, just very unlucky. I had similar thoughts that I should have been happy with what I had but there is no way of knowing it could happen to you.

I’m glad you are signed off for a month, I also took a month off post TFMR but I have an office based job. You made need longer and you should take what time you need. I felt like I needed some routine back and to get back to some kind of normal but definitely needed those few weeks.

I hope you aren’t waiting around too long for the next stage. Unfortunately due to delays in having an amnio and awaiting results I was over 17 weeks when I had medical management at hospital.

Be kind to yourself, thinking of you xx