UKIP. I'm voting for them. This is why;

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UKIP want us out of the EU, I love Europe can't stand the EU.We pay 40 million a day to them
1)72% of our laws are now made in Brussells, from fuel taxes, farming,fishing and immigration.
2)We pay £40 million a day to be in the EU.
3)The Two richest countries in Europe-Norway and Switzerland are not even in the EU.
4)Under labour we now have 3.5 million extra people living in this country. We need proper border controls. Nick Cleggs policy is to count people in and out of the country, and force them to work in 'regions' totally unworkable. UKIP would keep our proud tradition of helping genuine asylum seekers.
5)UKIP does not appear to be anti-christian as do the other parties. The labour parties spin doctor Alistair Campbell said they "don't do God!" I do.
6)UKIP believes in holding referendums for the electorate on key local and international issues. I like this.
7)Crime is now out of contol, UKIP would build more prisons. Last but not least, Lord Pearson (leader) is 'posh' and does not try to hide it.

Lulumaam;

I don't want to upset anyone, but this is a thread about UKIP and the BNP, they are pretty right-wing parties and have views and policies that don't always agree with left-wingers.

The BNP are quite vocal on homosexuality, but they are a legit political party and NG is allowed to speak his mind....I know there are lesbians on MN, and I would never intentionally hurt LG or any other lesbian poster, she knows that.... but it was her decision to come on this thread and join in, no one forced her.

I don't know what to say anymore, millions of people all over the world think homosexuality isn't natural....you can't wrap yourselves up in cotton wool and pretend people like me don't exist...we do..and our opinions are just as valid as yours.

Anybody else listening to Justine and hugging themselves? She's doing us proud

Attention Gays and Lesbians: all this time you've been wasting attempting to make babies with your abnormal shenanigans has been in vain! Thank God for lincstash.

Yes she's marvellous

you;ve missed the point totally

you claimed that responses to you were all about getting you banned, locked up or telling you to fuck off

i am not pretendng your opinions do not exist nor taht there are lots of people with similar view

what i abhor is the hypocricy,

"oh woe is me you all hate me and want me to be banned

but you are all liberal fascists who can stick their views up their arse

but don't be mean to me my views are jsut as valid as yours"

you never seem to actually get it....

Heathen - I reckon he's shy, quite amiable, probably deeply courteous and capable of infinite sweetness in RL.

Then he gets on line. Oh fuck it, he thinks, I'm all done with Mr Nice Guy.

he trolls the gardening forums and tells them Roses are UnEnglish and Wrong.

Pet Fanciers - goldfish are wrong and unnatural and in league with the trade unions

MN - pretty much anything

Then he goes in to work, and re-arranges his amusing desk toys and asks after everyone's holidays.

for shure

Zeph....can I ask you a serious question..?

Redheads, lincs. Should they only be redheads in private? Do you get a tickly feeling in your tummy when you see them on the TV?

natural daftpunk

qualify it

it happens in the animal kingdom

so whats not natural

i am catholic like you -but i dont get it

if one person loves another - whats the problem - on thisbasic simplest of terms i dont get it - explain to me

Sorry, dp I'm already taken. But I'm very flattered

the other argument is the makingbabies arument.

but i am more than that - i am more than a baby making machine i and millllions and quillions of others take contraception - against catholic church advice - becuase i am more than that - i would literally kill myself (mortal sin - although getting pissed is a mortal sin according to st paul - wanker) anyway, you get the point

"i dont see a term in Hamiltons Equation for 'number of gay uncles and aunts'"

It clearly falls into the altruism/ probability of relative sharing gene terms.
Are you being deliberately disingenuous in the hope that no-one will know what you're talking about?

'st paul - wanker' amen to that, custy

I'm not after your body zeph, I just wanted to know why you think I'm a lesbian...it's very insulting actually

daftpunk, I've been doing a little research on the BNP today, and I'd like to throw this quote out to you:

"To say that people are condemned to hell because of the way that nature or God made them, that?s actually grotesque. That?s not right. "

What PC, looney leftie said that, you ask?

Yup, that's right - Nick Griffin. Quite an achievement to actually be more prejudiced and homophobic than the leasder of the BNP.

Feel free to ignore me though, as you do with anyone who asks you a question, or tries to debate with you politely and reasonably (see lulumaam above).

he was though policy seriously - and every fking week theres a fking st paul reading at church. he was such a tosser.

right then dafty = come on

Sorry - I thought you were coming on to me for a moment.

I don't know why you would find it insulting to be thought of as gay. If I had called you an offensive bigot that would have been insulting.

a100x - I was thinking he's probably an uber-PC, sandal-wearing, Guardian-reading diversity consultant. The strain of being right-on all day gets to him, and he just likes to kick off of an evening.

lincstash, have you considered getting a hobby? Model-making? Stamp-collecting? Even masturbation would probably help....

lol. Yes, there's that possibility too Heathen. All the muesli has gone to his head, made him giddy, the internet where the fun never ends eh?

Zeph. That made me laugh a lot.

DP - I gotta tell you, the fact that people are ignorant or daft or bigoted is not an eye-opener. Far from it. Your views aren't threatening.

Now being ignorant on MN is not a national service.

You may feel being ignorant is valid, that's your look out.

Equally your desire to insist in your right to be ignorant

You can't keep expecting people to indulge it.

Nor to agree.

Or in fact, to not realize you do it ON PURPOSE TO ANNOY PEOPLE.

NG says alot of things, most of it taken out of context...I'm not really sure what your point is..? I'm worse than Nick Griffin..?

Tony Blair is a catholic, your beloved ex-leader thinks the same way I do, why don't you email TB and give him grief...

Tbh zeph, I'd rather be called an offensive bigot than a lesbian...

This, DP, we had worked out