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Afghan Women Erased From Public Life

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MsAmerica · 06/09/2026 22:08

Apparently Afghanistan is now in the lead for worst treatment of women.

Afghan Women Erased From Public Life in Five Years of Taliban Rule
Decrees restricting the rights of women and girls to study, work, travel and act independently now threaten to damage Afghanistan permanently, experts say.
By Ephrat Livni

“No other country in modern times has dismantled the rights of half its population through law, policy and practice to the same extent,” the United Nations agency on women said on Wednesday. “At the same time, overlapping humanitarian and economic crises and deepening poverty are also having a disproportionate impact on women and girls.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/13/world/asia/afghan-women-taliban-rule.html

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NolanChanceJustLikeTheWeatherNSoul · 06/09/2026 22:40

It's horrific how Afghan society is run.

Hetko · 06/09/2026 22:46

Literally horrific. And there is no one helping them. Fucking Islamists are a scrouge on humanity.

JeanSimmons · 06/09/2026 22:49

Hetko · 06/09/2026 22:46

Literally horrific. And there is no one helping them. Fucking Islamists are a scrouge on humanity.

This absolutely. The left don't want to hear it, though. They can't blame it on Israel so it is of no interest to them.

BloodyRoses · 06/09/2026 22:51

It's absolutely horrendous. Those poor women. Shame on all of us.

moonraker0 · 06/09/2026 22:51

But people on MN will have you believe that these people have the same values as us and should be welcomed with open arms.

SharonEllis · 07/09/2026 05:39

Its horrifying.

MsAmerica · 08/09/2026 23:25

JeanSimmons · 06/09/2026 22:49

This absolutely. The left don't want to hear it, though. They can't blame it on Israel so it is of no interest to them.

I beg your pardon? The "left" is definitely concerned, as all decent people should be.

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AndyKitten · 08/09/2026 23:35

I just read the most unbelievable story about the female staff of the Eiffel Tower and it’s seems so easy for something like this to happen. Even in secular France.
Good on them for putting up a fight thought.

MsAmerica · 08/09/2026 23:37

Well, I hope you post your unbelievable story, too!

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 08/09/2026 23:40

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 08/09/2026 23:41

moonraker0 · 06/09/2026 22:51

But people on MN will have you believe that these people have the same values as us and should be welcomed with open arms.

Or perhaps they feel that people fleeing from this terrible regime should be given sanctuary.

HollyhocksandPeons · 08/09/2026 23:43

moonraker0 · 06/09/2026 22:51

But people on MN will have you believe that these people have the same values as us and should be welcomed with open arms.

This

AndyKitten · 08/09/2026 23:45

MsAmerica · 08/09/2026 23:37

Well, I hope you post your unbelievable story, too!

It’s all over the news.

HollyhocksandPeons · 08/09/2026 23:47

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 08/09/2026 23:41

Or perhaps they feel that people fleeing from this terrible regime should be given sanctuary.

Sorry, millions are fleeing this terrible regime plus hundreds of thousands who were translators and otherwise helping the Allied Forces.... How the fuck did the Taliban win then - the numbers are not adding up!

Also, you give them sanctuary - by which I mean - you pay for their private health insurance, their private school, their food and their housing privately - just for one person and his family, OK? Don't push this onto the British dispossessed. Please. People don't want them living next to them, people don't want local GPs overrun, people don't want overcrowded classrooms. Please.

MsAmerica · 08/09/2026 23:54

HollyhocksandPeons · 08/09/2026 23:47

Sorry, millions are fleeing this terrible regime plus hundreds of thousands who were translators and otherwise helping the Allied Forces.... How the fuck did the Taliban win then - the numbers are not adding up!

Also, you give them sanctuary - by which I mean - you pay for their private health insurance, their private school, their food and their housing privately - just for one person and his family, OK? Don't push this onto the British dispossessed. Please. People don't want them living next to them, people don't want local GPs overrun, people don't want overcrowded classrooms. Please.

My impression is that of the millions fleeing Afghanistan, most have settled nearby - probably in the hope of being able to return at some point.

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AndyKitten · 09/09/2026 00:00

MsAmerica · 08/09/2026 23:54

My impression is that of the millions fleeing Afghanistan, most have settled nearby - probably in the hope of being able to return at some point.

Pakistan is sending back most Afghan refugees, with force in most cases.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/09/2026 00:06

HollyhocksandPeons · 08/09/2026 23:47

Sorry, millions are fleeing this terrible regime plus hundreds of thousands who were translators and otherwise helping the Allied Forces.... How the fuck did the Taliban win then - the numbers are not adding up!

Also, you give them sanctuary - by which I mean - you pay for their private health insurance, their private school, their food and their housing privately - just for one person and his family, OK? Don't push this onto the British dispossessed. Please. People don't want them living next to them, people don't want local GPs overrun, people don't want overcrowded classrooms. Please.

The number of Afghans in the UK is actually pretty small. They are certainly not overrunning your GP surgery or overcrowding your kids' classrooms.

If you don't want people living next door to you simply because of where they have come from, then that says more about you than it does about them. Perhaps if you took the time to get to know them, you might feel differently.

Lemonfrost · 09/09/2026 00:07

HollyhocksandPeons · 08/09/2026 23:47

Sorry, millions are fleeing this terrible regime plus hundreds of thousands who were translators and otherwise helping the Allied Forces.... How the fuck did the Taliban win then - the numbers are not adding up!

Also, you give them sanctuary - by which I mean - you pay for their private health insurance, their private school, their food and their housing privately - just for one person and his family, OK? Don't push this onto the British dispossessed. Please. People don't want them living next to them, people don't want local GPs overrun, people don't want overcrowded classrooms. Please.

I would have no problem at all living next door to a family from Afghanistan, so stop trying to be the voice of the nation. It doesn’t wash.

MarxistMags · 09/09/2026 00:15

I agree. It is back to the Dark Ages with the Taliban.
Why are men frightened of women ?

NewGirlInTown · 09/09/2026 00:34

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TooBigForMyBoots · 09/09/2026 01:01

The day the Taliban banned women from public parks, the Afgan women living round here all went to our park.😢

What is happening to women there, at the hands of an extreme right wing theocracy, is horrendous.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/09/2026 01:34

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The perpetrators of crimes against women, whether here or in Afghanistan, should not be given sanctuary, I agree.

But there are no reliable "rape charts" and a small minority of Afghan men committing sexual offences doesn't make all Afghan men rapists.

Afghan men are not all synonymous with the Taliban, and you actually have no idea whether the people who have come to the UK "want to treat women the same" - they have chosen to leave the Taliban regime and they will all have their reasons for making that choice.

As for Islam, there are many different interpretations of it. I abhor the repressive Islamist regime in Afghanistan, but I know many Muslims who are as horrified by it as I am. It certainly doesn't represent how all Muslims choose to live by their faith.

Condem the Taliban and all forms of misogyny, and I will join you. Prosecute and deport men who commit sexual offences, and I will support you. But as soon as you start making sweeping generalisations about people based on their nationality or religion alone, then you've lost the argument.

GarlicSomething · 09/09/2026 01:55

HollyhocksandPeons · 08/09/2026 23:47

Sorry, millions are fleeing this terrible regime plus hundreds of thousands who were translators and otherwise helping the Allied Forces.... How the fuck did the Taliban win then - the numbers are not adding up!

Also, you give them sanctuary - by which I mean - you pay for their private health insurance, their private school, their food and their housing privately - just for one person and his family, OK? Don't push this onto the British dispossessed. Please. People don't want them living next to them, people don't want local GPs overrun, people don't want overcrowded classrooms. Please.

What the hell are you on about?

All the 'Western' nations abandoned Afghanistan and thousands of Afghans who helped us in the war, most of whom will have been killed and their families murdered, alongside millions of ordinary citizens.

We abandoned the war because Afghanistan is basically unwinnable due to its millennia-old tribal structures, networks and hierarchies. There are still incredibly brave Afghan rebel factions, whom we're now unable to help. Some of those rebels, when they've been betrayed, make it out of the country at huge personal cost.

@MsAmerica, did you know that women's and girls' voices have now been criminalised? They mustn't speak in public, even to another woman. They aren't allowed to sing under any circumstances. A man can beat a woman of his household if he thinks she's speaking too loudly.

@HollyhocksandPeons try watching and reading some of the excellent materials about what's happened there. You can't see anything of what's happening now because all media are banned. I've just finished the BBC's Kabul series, which follows a small group of people trying to leave safely during the fall. For books try war reporter Christina Lamb, who not only lived through it and understands the politics, but truly loved Afghanistan as it was.

moonraker0 · 09/09/2026 12:56

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 08/09/2026 23:41

Or perhaps they feel that people fleeing from this terrible regime should be given sanctuary.

The men inflicting their backward views on women are the ones that are entering our country so no, I don’t think they should be given sanctuary.

NolanChanceJustLikeTheWeatherNSoul · 09/09/2026 14:42

moonraker0 · 09/09/2026 12:56

The men inflicting their backward views on women are the ones that are entering our country so no, I don’t think they should be given sanctuary.

Not enmasse no
But balaclava man aren't the most forward thinking.
I've experience of extreme right wing ideology..think along the lines of NF,BNP
Combat 18.
It's all a load of bollocks the methods change but the message is always the same.
I believed then started to think for myself.