Zelensky & Trump

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TwinklyMintHelper · 28/02/2025 21:33

The world is a scary place at the moment. Whatever is truly going on in international politics, it seems that we are not meant to know. Was the televised meeting just a piece of showmanship? I don’t know. If not, it was a very strange affair. Although many would suffer in a third world war, there would surely be many who would profit. We should all pray that common sense will prevail for the future of humanity.

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dubsie · 01/03/2025 23:37

I'm a realist, I don't believe all the territories lost can be recovered using military means but I don't think it can ever be business as usual with Russia until they pay for damage, repatriation of the stolen children and give up the territory stolen. Until those criteria are met then we should fortify the borders around Russia and intensify our financial war on Russia.

CarpetKnees · 01/03/2025 23:40

TheCastleDoesNotReply · 01/03/2025 12:11

This was orchestrated and planned. Trump hates Zelensky due to the Hunter Biden fiasco during Trump's first term. He also hates that Zelensky is a statesman and a warrior whereas Trump is a draft-refusing failed businessman turned convict so rightly feels inferior in Zelensky's presence.

Zelensky's rationality, dignity, integrity and calm composure while dealing with this unwarranted rant from these jumped-up tyrants demanding that people should be "grateful" for them providing a fake figure of aid which Trump claimed to be quadruple the actual amount (and less than Europe has provided to Ukraine) and accusing Zelensky of being "disrespectful" when Trump had accused him of starting the invasion of his own country and being a dictator is embarrassing.

Then the audacity of trying to blackmail a country into signing over its natural resources to the US, which has already breached the Budapest Memorandum, and claim that a country fighting to protect its sovereignty and territory means it "doesn't want peace". How fucking dare he? Clearly he was putting on a show for his handler, along with his loud-mouthed trailor trash VP. I think Trump is now running scared because he's realised Ukraine won't roll over and he can't deliver what he promised to his handler. Krasnov is soon going to find the chips are called in and there is a price to pay for the free lunch he's been enjoying since the '80s when he became subject to kompromat.

The American public and the rest of their politicians should hang their heads in shame and history will not be forgiving for the failure of the American populace and institutions to do anything to stand up to the tyrant Comrade Krasnov. The Americans can be trusted no more than Putin going forward. Threatening Canada, Mexico, Greenland, the EU, Ukraine. They are a disgraced nation now and can never again claim to be "the leaders of the free world".

Great post.

GiraffesAtThePark · 02/03/2025 07:16

roses2 · 01/03/2025 13:26

Why do people keep referring to Trump as a failed businessman? Yes he is a vile person but he was a millionaire/billionaire before he was president the first time!! That sounds like a successful businessman to me albeit not a very nice one.

If he’d stuck a large chunk of his inheritance in low risk investments/savings he’d have been more wealthy than doing all those business deals. He was good at convincing others to put money in his failing businesses I’ll give you that. Lots of unhappy people hurt by their failings.

GiraffesAtThePark · 02/03/2025 07:19

Trump said Putin didn’t respect Biden and Obama and so didn’t adhere to agreements but he will now as he respects Trump. So that’s just 4 years of peace by Trump’s logic?

dubsie · 02/03/2025 09:40

GiraffesAtThePark · 02/03/2025 07:19

Trump said Putin didn’t respect Biden and Obama and so didn’t adhere to agreements but he will now as he respects Trump. So that’s just 4 years of peace by Trump’s logic?

And Putin badly needs the sanctions lifting so he can rebuild his military so of course Putin is happy to do business with Trump.

The Ukraine is also is dire need of support and it's army needs respite.

From my perspective a complete ceasefire but ramping up of Russian sanctions is needed. Putin isn't actually in a very strong position other than it has access to more souls to send to the frontline than the Ukraine.

There are positives from all this, for the first time Europe is completely united and I hope we come together and form an alliance that can stop this happening again and secure a future for what's left of the Ukraine. I don't think we can force Russians back without risk of it escalating into something very bad but we can beef up our presence to make Russia realise they are completely isolated.

I think we should take stock and Denmark should consider telling the US to leave it's bases in Greenland and beef up military presence in that region with the help of it's European alliance.

It's time to cut off America and teach them a lesson.

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