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Oh Come All Ye Faithful, Frothy and Triumphant! Oh Come Lefties, Come Ye to anti ConDem-nay-tion!

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KateMiddlet0n · 13/12/2011 15:00

Fed up of the ConDems robbing the poorest and most vulnerable blind? Sympathetic to the squeezed middle? Have you eyes that can see the horrors that await the dismantling of our welfare state and all that is great and good in UK?

Then you're a frother. This is our safe-space to rally, vent and get organised. You are also welcome if you want to be better informed and/or do something.

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This is our 4th thread now!

OP posts:
PersonalClown · 13/12/2011 17:00

Just plastered the Alright Jack post on FB. Let's see if anyone takes notice.

AvadventKalendar · 13/12/2011 17:05

have tweeted Femail

blackoutthexmaslights · 13/12/2011 17:26

marking place while i'll get dd ready for bed

MmeLindor. · 13/12/2011 17:30

14.000 page views and 2 500 unique visitors is pretty good going for a blog that only started a couple of weeks ago.

I get about 5 - 6000 page views a month and have been blogging seriously for just over a year.

MmeLindor. · 13/12/2011 17:31

(and my blog is pretty small potatoes, compared to the big blogs that get several thousand hits a day)

CardyMow · 13/12/2011 17:45

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck FUCK!!! Just found THIS information:

B. Claimants subject to the work-focused interview requirement only:
lone parents or the lead carer in a couple with a child over one but below a prescribed age (which will be three to five, as yet undecided).

They're going to cut the age where you have to be available for work to 3yo. I could JUST about cope with childcare fees if it was when DS3 was 5yo. But if I am having to pay before school AND after school care for the two primary age dc's, Nursery for DS3 AND SN childcare for DD, I will be spending MORE on childcare than my wages AND UC combined.

How the utter FUCK is THAT meant to work?!

Especially when I will have NO allowance for DS3?! No earnings disregard, and they will only pay UP TO 70% of the childcare fees up to a MAXIMUM of 70% of £300 a week. NOT including DD's SN childcare, that would cost me around £450 a WEEK for the youngest 3 dc if I've still got one in Nursery and two in primary wrap-around care. And I'd need wrap around due to travelling by public transport - as I can't drive COS I'VE GOT FUCKING EPILEPSY. That the stupid cunts at ATOS say isn't a disability. Yet it bars me from holding a driving license. Hmm.

Can I sign up to Dignitas now?!

CardyMow · 13/12/2011 17:46
CardyMow · 13/12/2011 17:47
blackoutthexmaslights · 13/12/2011 17:54

hang on a minute! epilepsy not considered a disability???

WTF

MmeLindor. · 13/12/2011 17:54

Hunty
all this info that you are gathering - is it the current proposal or has it already gone through? Am getting confused.

And will there be a way to appeal against this?

KateMiddlet0n · 13/12/2011 17:56

How does the Equality Act 2010 stand up against some of these ATOS decisions?

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blackoutthexmaslights · 13/12/2011 17:56

can't remember who or what thread someone was trying to find this link

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8952062/Lord-Freud-plans-shake-up-of-benefits-for-widows.html

CardyMow · 13/12/2011 17:59

That statement is lifted DIRECTLY from the Child Poverty Action Group website statement on UC.

Basically, in the WRB, there is a passage that says that while Lone parents and the main carer in a couple currently do not face conditionality until their youngest child is 5yo, that is subject to change. I paid no real attention to that, but on re-reading it after finding that comment on the CPAG website - it made me stop in my tracks. It is IN the WRB. I'm pretty sure it was in the bit that was passed last night.

MmeLindor. · 13/12/2011 18:01

Shit, Hunty. That is bad.

CardyMow · 13/12/2011 18:02

Blackout - epilepsy IS a disability, but it is only 'severe' enough for ESA if you have 700+ seizures a year now. For IB it was 52+ seizures a year.

And if you pass the ATOS fit-for-work test for ESA, and therefore don't get ESA, and your DLA renewal is due just 4 weeks later, like mine was...then you lose your DLA too. Despite the fact that you may have been, like me, on HRC,LRM before.

So you lose both your IB and your DLA in a month.

Funnily enough - your epilepsy doesn't disappear just because ATOS feel that you are fit for work. Because they aren't omnipotent, and they don't have a magic cure for a life-long, chronic disability...

RudolphthePinkNosedReindeer · 13/12/2011 18:06

Just marking my place and saying hello again.

And thanking God I am a baby boomer, it is SO RECENT that you didn't have to look for work till youngest was 16. I could just about manage SAHM but full time work resulted in severe depression (1998) (although SAHH was useless while I was trying to do my job) And that's with 2 kids without SN.

JuliaScurr · 13/12/2011 18:10

As dp just ranted said - 'It's got nothing to do with the deficit, nothing to do with economics - it's ideological'
Sometimes it's so good to have a nother commie in the house

perceptionreality · 13/12/2011 18:10

marking place

MadameOvary · 13/12/2011 18:13
is for Hully after her earlier comment. Grin
MrsMicawber · 13/12/2011 18:16

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blackoutthexmaslights · 13/12/2011 18:17

so now you have to have what 12 fits a week???

the bastards!!!

i know i shouldn't be shocked ATOS said my best friend was classed as fit for work as they had never heard of her disability (dystonia)

blackoutthexmaslights · 13/12/2011 18:19

wouldn't hold your breathe waiting for a reply from louise, as an MP is she useless

JuliaScurr · 13/12/2011 18:19

Have I already said that your local anti-cuts group will be happy to accompany claimants to Atos etc? Really happy. Honestly. They'll have banners, leaflets, press releases, placards If you want moral support, get in touch
coalitionofresistance righttowork anticutsprotests falseeconomy Take your pick
or try 'name of town' against the cuts on fb

And you'll neeeever froth alooooone
You'll never froth
Alone
Froth on
Froth on

lubeybaublely · 13/12/2011 18:21

Fuck, Hunty. Wine

I'm just going to gibber in the corner for a while.

Anyone else fancy a gibber? I have cake?

garlicnutcracker · 13/12/2011 18:22

Oh yes, please, MrsM :) She does care about stuff - just not always easy to guess what she'll care about. May as well give her a chance, hey?

I've just written to my extremely Tory MP. Rather despairingly, though, I agree with Mr Scurr that it's not really about what happens to real people. It's about knowing one's place.

If I'd wanted to live in a country with an underclass, I would've stayed in South America. Wish I had, now, the climate was nicer.

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