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Oh Come All Ye Faithful, Frothy and Triumphant! Oh Come Lefties, Come Ye to anti ConDem-nay-tion!

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KateMiddlet0n · 13/12/2011 15:00

Fed up of the ConDems robbing the poorest and most vulnerable blind? Sympathetic to the squeezed middle? Have you eyes that can see the horrors that await the dismantling of our welfare state and all that is great and good in UK?

Then you're a frother. This is our safe-space to rally, vent and get organised. You are also welcome if you want to be better informed and/or do something.

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This is our 4th thread now!

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HedleyLamarr · 13/12/2011 19:16

Has anyone posted this piece from the Torygraph yet? Apparently "it's not about saving money". Righto

CardyMow · 13/12/2011 19:18

Still won't do anything about the fact that you can't be a disabled carer though. It's a fucker for someone like me that has a disability themselves, yet ALSO has dc's with disabilities and is a Lone Parent.

Yet, if you are a couple, you can have ONE adult with a disability, and the OTHER can be classified as a carer for the dc's with disabilities. Hmm

Which, understandably, FUCKS ME OFF.

So are the Government going to magic away MY disabilities or my DC's disabilities? Because if not, THEM I'M STILL going to be a disabled carer. It just won't be recognised. Angry

MmeLindor. · 13/12/2011 19:21

I have been thinking about this.

Perhaps we need to try harder to make this apolitical.

MrsM is right.

I think that we do the Conservative politicians and voters a disservice if we assume that they would all support these policies. Many of us Labour supporters didn't know about this.

So less Torybashing and more workign together to find those MPs who would support our cause.

garlicnutcracker · 13/12/2011 19:50

Te, FS - There was a tag gadget Grin

Will continue with pagination challenger, and look at creating a nice navigation page - good idea, that.

I agree, MmeL, about keeping it apolitical.

Glitterknickaz · 13/12/2011 19:53

I would be exactly the same if Gordon Brown was still PM, or if Ed Milliband got in and didn't do something about this.

I'm still deeply resentful that ATOS was employed under labour.

There is no party politics involved here.

FontSnob · 13/12/2011 19:56

Can't see the picture of the podger, so i shall imagine it instead, peachy, you saucy minx!

FontSnob · 13/12/2011 19:57

Bugger, i went over to that bloody tory thread and now im cross but not able to articulate properly. feck.

MmeLindor. · 13/12/2011 20:00

Glitter
I know, there are a lot of policies that were brought in under Labour.

What I mean is, it is easy to do the "Bloody Tories, how can they sleep at night", but that risks alienating those who would actually support the objections to the more extreme cuts.

The press are very good at making this a benefit scroungers left wing heartontheirsleevewearer vs upstanding pillar of the community Tories.

Glitterknickaz · 13/12/2011 20:02

Do you know what, the idiots are coming out to play now.
I'm wondering if being here again is a good idea for me mentally tbh.

Miaowww · 13/12/2011 20:16

Marking place Xmas Smile

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 13/12/2011 20:20

This frothing was never actually meant to be purely Tory bashing

The premise was to raise awareness about the unfairness of policies being brought in by the current Govt and in recent years so definitely including the last govt too

Glitterknickaz · 13/12/2011 20:24

ATOS being one of the biggest piles of poop

FontSnob · 13/12/2011 20:25

I agree AF, I wouldn't actually know who to vote for in the next election (I know I wouldn't vote Tory) I don't however think that the Labour govt are particulary strong enough atm either. I think we're fucked either way tbh.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 13/12/2011 20:33

I hate the fucking lot of them, if truth be known

FontSnob · 13/12/2011 20:37

I have to admit to (at first, with my naivety) thinking that this Govt may be able to make things better, I actually believed that the coalition might even things out. HA fucking HA, i'm glad I didn't vote Tory, but equally I wish I hadn't voted Lib Dem.

Glitterknickaz · 13/12/2011 20:40

I knew that whoever got it would have made cuts. Perhaps I made the error of thinking Labour wouldn't have made quite the kind the coalition are making, I say that because Ed Milliband is hardly rigidly opposing them is he?

FontSnob · 13/12/2011 20:42

Its the depth and speed of the cuts, like they are rushing headlong into something that they haven't thought about properly. Stuff like Gove getting his free schools up and running in a couple of months, without thinking the whole thing through. It pisses me off that they don't seem to want to listen to anyone either. :(

MmeLindor. · 13/12/2011 20:43

It is really difficult to know for sure, but for sure Labour would have had to make some cuts.

And, yes. I think there is not really that much in it. I would not know who to vote for.

Glitter
Do you mean here on MN? Has someone upset you?

I am not going on the Tory thread, cause I know how it will be and I cannot be bothered arguing my case when I know for sure I cannot change minds.

Glitterknickaz · 13/12/2011 20:45

No, AIBU. Comments such as "if you didn't smoke and drink you'd have money left" and other fuckwittery.

FontSnob · 13/12/2011 20:46

That's the thing isn't it, no one wants to have their minds changed, they are so close minded and it seems to be the same in govt.

Hope you're okay Glitter.

KateMiddlet0n · 13/12/2011 20:46

Dont worry about that Tory thread Font. I think when people start saying the BNP are left wing and the nazis were socialists it's clear who is a twat and who isn't.

Dh and I were having a right laugh about it just now.

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AvadventKalendar · 13/12/2011 20:47

I've never seen this whole thing as Tory or LibDem bashing. We all knew whoever got in would have to make some cuts, but it's the unfairness of the cuts. Why attack the most vulnerable in society? There are other ways.

Just watched this - vimeo.com/17201782

MmeLindor. · 13/12/2011 20:52

Glitter
Walk away. Only someone who has never walked in your shoes would say something like that.

KateMiddlet0n · 13/12/2011 20:54

There is ConDem bashing because they are responsible for the unfairness.

But we should be a-political as a group although individual members may hold strong views. What I like about frothers is that we're multi-faceted.

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MmeLindor. · 13/12/2011 20:55

oh, and when I said that earlier, I meant that we should approach bloggers and politicians on both sides of the political spectrum.

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