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Do you believe in the TV mediums?

36 replies

MammyM · 19/11/2006 20:33

I'm never quite sure.... I want to believe but....

Colin Fry seems quite believable but then I read a critisism of his on the web the other day and a lot of it made sense, i.e: if a spirit wants to contact a person, why don't they just say who they are and who they want to talk to instead of beating around the bush with signs? John Edward, I don't believe at all, all that 'May is important in your family' and then he says '21, 22, 23rd' until they say yes?!!

What do you think?

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Tommy · 19/11/2006 22:36

I think they prey on vulnerable people a bit tbh.
Agree with what you said - if a spirit wants to contact someone, why don't they just do it - would they need a medium?

smeeinit · 23/11/2006 21:33

ive done seminars with colin fry and i can tell you first hand is 110% genuine!
and imo john edward is a saint! he does fantastic work and is highly skilled at what he does ,he also does not charge a penny for readings or to appear on his shows
if you are a bit sceptical then you will always find things that dont sit comfortably with tv mediums.
mediums work in alot of different ways but basically a medium does not just strike up a conversation with spirit as if they were chatting on the phone,thats why signs are used and sometimes the message gets confused!
fistly a spirit could not just contact someone without that person being open to recieving,it would be extremely difficult for spirit world to connect with a firm non believer,this is where mediums come in.
tommy i think you have a valid point that SOME "mediums" do prey on vunerable people but for that handfull of so called mediums there are thousnds of others doing great work to help others.

twinkletinselpud · 08/12/2006 22:18

hi i recently wen tot see a, for want of a better word, "show" by tony stockwell. brilliant. although i was sat by a couple of women who were determined to find things wrong with the whole experience - why on earth did they go?! all the information he gave was totally accurate and i would definitely book to see him again. without boasting, i could do what he did but would have massive stage fright so it was brilliant thing to see.

onzephyrstdayofchristmas · 08/12/2006 22:20

I don't like Colin Fry but I love John Edward and totally believe in what he does.

maltesers · 12/12/2006 14:38

Would love to go on one of these shows. think all these mediums are amazing and believe it all. There is def. something in it ! Does anyone know of any forthcoming shows or events like the ones mentioned ?

expatinscotland · 12/12/2006 14:41

no

twinkletinselpud · 23/12/2006 21:41

why not?

DominiConnor · 27/12/2006 17:19

Obviously it is entirely possible that a given medium really believes this rubbish.
I can even accept that some refuse to take money for it out of some ethical position.
But...
If you could talk to the dead, you would get so rich so quickly, that if this nonsense had any basis in fact that a cabal of unscrupulous mediums would now be ruling the world.
Maybe it was them that had Princess Diana killed ?

WideWebWitch · 27/12/2006 17:23

Lot of old crap imo. I had a reading with one of them (a tv one mentioned here but don't want to get sued so won't say more than that) and he was 100% wrong. Didn't even know which of my parents was dead.

WideWebWitch · 27/12/2006 17:24

Btw I had a reading because I was trying to prove it was a load of old crap, not because I started from a position of believing it.

SnafuOutOfHiding · 27/12/2006 17:28

Load of old bolleaux. Completely agree that they prey on the emotionally vulnerable.

But I love a bit of Most Haunted, though. 'Say it again, for me, Sam.' Fab

fizzbuzz · 27/12/2006 17:49

Didn't believe until my mum died 8 months age, and am absolutely desperate to just have something from her.

Went to see a medium, who did say some incredibly uncanny things that she just could not have guessed ever. Things like names, events and age differences. Wrote it all down and keep going back and reading it, and it is still unreal now.

However she also said a lot of things that were rubbish or difficult to understand.

I guess I am one of the desperate and vulnerable people that these type of people prey on, so don't really know what I believe, just miss my mum so much

Pruni · 27/12/2006 17:58

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twinkletinselpud · 27/12/2006 20:55

there are very good ones and then there are charlatans. fwiw for the few people i have done readings for, they have all said i am spot on.

and btw, it is not a pile of crap but everyone has the choice of what they want to believe, or not as the case may be.

dc you are, however, completely wrong. for one thing you would not get so materially rich so quick. how could you make judgements like that? do you even know any mediums?

ditzyangeluk · 03/01/2007 05:45

Oh yes, DEFINITELY. There IS something to all this. My mate even 'talks' to our dead parents regularly. Mind you, it CAN be addictive & can't all be taken as gospel, especally the date/time thing they seem to have problems with!
Don't knock it til you try it!

DominiConnor · 03/01/2007 10:45

Actually, I've met mediums.
They are using basic undergrad psychology upon people whose wishful thinking has swamped their low level of education.

Less gullible people have spent time collating many statements that you can make to people that almost all of them will interpret as personally insightful.

As for it being a route to riches if true, think how much money you could make from gambling, espionage or selling stories to the Sun if you had an invisible friend.

Tortington · 03/01/2007 10:48

i wish everyone was as certain as their own intelligence as you DC.

do take a look at the sparkly fanjo thread - ad write a knob poem

meowmix · 03/01/2007 10:53

Yes, them and father christmas too. Oh and definitely the Easter Bunny.

foxinsocks · 03/01/2007 10:53

oh fizzbuzz, I am sorry for your loss.

I don't believe in it at all. Have seen several mediums at work and still think it is a load of baloney.

Think the mediums tend to be very self confident, self assured people and a lot of their customers tend to be desperate for any contact at all from the dead. In the sense that they may make some people feel better, I suppose they fulfill some sort of purpose.

DominiConnor · 03/01/2007 13:26

I do wish you'd read my posts occasionally custardo. Would make your attacks so much more accurate.
I did not mae reference to intelligence at all.
Was talking about the low level of education that leaves people prey to nonsense like this.

Even a keen mind can only operate upon the facts it has available. A lesson you should take to heart before commenting upon posts that you seem unable to read correctly.

ditzyangeluk · 03/01/2007 14:41

Like I said, don't knock what you haven't tried & can't prove/dis-prove

pointydog · 03/01/2007 15:11

That's always the fallback argument though, isn't it. 'You can't disprove it' and 'it doesn't work for sceptics'. How convenient. It's phoney.

satine · 03/01/2007 15:18

Did anyone see the Derren Brown programme where he went to New York and pretended to be a medium before an audience of New Yorkers? He said right from the start of the TV programme that he has no medium 'powers' whatsoever, and that he used a technique called cold reading (basically very clever reading of body language) but the audience didn't know this and those for whom he had messages were completely taken in (he did explain to them all at the end what he had done, and they agreed to be shown). That, for me, answered the question once and for all. He was brilliant - and I would have said that what he knew about people in the audience was uncannily accurate and impossible to guess, if I didn't know from the start that he was duping them.

pointydog · 03/01/2007 15:20

Yes I did see that programme satine and it was gripping. It certainly proved that it is possible to pretend to be a very very good medium. Although, of course, it did not prove that all mediums are kidding on.

DominiConnor · 03/01/2007 17:21

That's true, you can only prove one medium is a fake, not that in general they are frauds.

I take that all of us receive enticing offers from relatives of former leaders of Nigeria, who need our help in getting some money out of that country ?
Can we know that they are all fake ?

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