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Can someone please explain The Masons to me

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Grammar · 30/10/2014 16:29

I always thought it was a misogynistic, dodgy 'secret society'. I still do but found out yesterday that the nearest 'Defibrillator' in a town, can invariably be found near a Masonic Lodge, as they have invested a lot of time and money into providing these things. So clearly they do some good things too.
I want to know;

  1. Why the secrecy and 'Nepotism'?
  2. What have they got to hide?
  3. What do they provide for society and how is it decided?
4.Who becomes one and why? Do you 'get invited'? 5.Is there a hierarchy? And lastly and most importantly 6.What influence, good and bad do they have...is it right they can retain secrecy in this climate of 'Transparency'? I have no information on any of this and welcome any of my possibly poor preconceived ideas being challenged. This is a genuine request for information.
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Grammar · 30/10/2014 17:06

Bump, Anyone?

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BOFster · 30/10/2014 17:11

I think they are basically just a male Rotary Club with more drinking.

VivaLeBeaver · 30/10/2014 17:14

My uncle was a mason. Afaik you do get invited and there is a hierarchy. They do a lot of good for local good causes and just discuss whether they think its worthwhile enough to be given money to. Not sure why they're so secret.

Round table and rotary do similar good work without the secrecy. I've been an after dinner speaker for one of those two (can't remember which) after they kindly funded me to go and work in a hospital in Africa for a bit.

Sidge · 30/10/2014 17:27

A close family friend of ours is a Mason. He was invited to join. As far as I can see it's like grown up Boy Scouts Grin - they meet regularly, have some rituals (no sacrificial virgins or anything, just semi-religious pomp and ceremony) and drink and talk.

They do huge amounts for local charities and good causes.

It is quite old fashioned IMO, women are not allowed to join but are respected - I went to their annual Ladies Night recently, which was a lovely dinner and dance and wives/girlfriends are acknowledged, toasted and thanked.

NerfHerder · 30/10/2014 21:03

Surely the reason they have defibriliators is nothing to do with "wanting to do good deeds", and everything to do with the fact that Masons tend to be men of a certain age that get together to drink and eat huge meals? (i.e. prime candidates for cardiac arrests)

froootbat · 30/10/2014 21:13

They have a funny handshake too, they do a thing with their thumb so they can tell a mason internationally.

Smashingpumpkinofcourse · 30/10/2014 21:16

Watching with interest, DH seems to think they're anti catholic, is this nonsense or is there something in it?

ethelb · 30/10/2014 21:28

Catholics can't be masons as it is secret and Catholics can't belong to a secret society.

ArgyMargy · 30/10/2014 21:31

Well all I know is that you have to be a man but you don't have to be white any more!

loveulotslikejellytots · 30/10/2014 21:37

My Nan runs a charity teaching disabled adults and children to ride horses. The local masons donate huge amounts to the charity every Christmas. Last year it was £1500. 2 of them have also done work for her free of charge, one is an electrician and one is a builder. The work they did would have cost her over £900, I know it wouldn't have cost them that, but still. They seem like a lovely bunch of people, no idea about the secrecy etc.

Annbag · 30/10/2014 21:45

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FrancisdeSales · 30/10/2014 21:50

Well my ex-SILs family are all in the police and two of her brothers were detectives guarding the Royal family. They all said you cannot get meaningful promotions without joining the Masons. (This was in the 90s)

HowsTheSerenity · 30/10/2014 21:51

There is a lot of info on Google.

It's not secret. You have to believe in a higher power to join so any deity, alien, god or mythical beast will do. They do weird rituals but nothing dodgy. They have a secret handshake, they wear suits and special aprons, you have to be invited to join. They do lots of fundraising. There are dry lodges where no one drinks.

Women have their own version. It's called the Order of The Eastern Star.
They wear all white. Do pretty much the same as the men.

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Grammar · 31/10/2014 12:57

Interesting... what is their 'philosophy', I wonder?And why can't women enter, or need their own order? Anything that has a 'Ladies Night' where they are acknowledged, toasted and thanked strikes me as outrageously patronising (a bit 'golfy') and certainly a long way from 'equality and diversity' though I note you don't have to be white anymore.
I'm still very wary.

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Sidge · 31/10/2014 20:02

I didn't find it patronising at all but I can see what you're saying.

Redglitter · 31/10/2014 20:05

Actually catholics can be Masons. I know of one who's quite high up and very well regarded in the Masons and is a Catholic.

They're not a secret society they're a society with secrets

groovyolmutha · 31/10/2014 20:10

My Dad used to be one (he is RIP). He wouldn't even tell my mum what they did and he had to learn various texts to join. Mum said she would test him and held the book but some words were blanked out so that the secret was kept!

We used to think it was a bit of a laugh but they do loads for charity. A bit archaic now. I believe women can join but have their own 'lodges' as the groups are called locally.

My dad was solid all round and would not have gone along with anything dodgy but there has alway been the whiff of nepotism, etc.

I don't think they are actively discriminatory but a bit out of step with modern thinking perhaps.

PetiteRaleuse · 31/10/2014 20:14

Marking place. Thought it was an 80s thing. It still exists?

Redglitter · 31/10/2014 20:25

Very much still exists Smile

TheDowagerDuchessOfDinglyDell · 31/10/2014 20:29

What about Moose?

I vaguely recall going to a party in the Moose Hall in 1980.

any ideas? Or did i dream it?

GColdtimer · 31/10/2014 20:29

I used to work at the masons meeting (waitress for outside catering company). We used to get sent out between courses so they could do their secret stuff. It was incredible chauvinistic and we often got our bums pinched. I do know many of them used to drink shit loads and drive home.

This was in the early 90s though and only 1 or 2 lodges so not for a minute saying all masons are like that.

NoArmaniNoPunani · 31/10/2014 20:29

Interesting thread. It appears I've been horribly mis informed. I was told swinging was involved

VintageCherry26 · 31/10/2014 20:34

ArgyMargy, there are many female Freemason lodges :)

VintageCherry26 · 31/10/2014 20:37

My fiancé is a free mason. I really don't understand why people think there is something so sinister about it all! The main part of free masonry is that they give lots of money to charity. There is a book written specifically for wives and girlfriends of masons which you can order online (Amazon, ebay etc) which tells you anything you want to know about masonry. Most of it isn't a secret at all if you know where to look :)

Smugfearnleyshittingstool · 31/10/2014 20:44

My uncle is a mason and self employed dp is considering it as a great way to network and share business contacts. There seems to be a bit of weirdness involved but it does offer guys somewhere to meet/make friends as women would with school mums or women's institute. No harm IMO, each to there ownwould laugh at dp in an apron mind!