Hmm, interesting and bizarre sounding theory. Satanism in music.

[loopylou6]

I randomly stumbled across someone discussing this on here so I did alot of research and the findings have actually been quite shocking, it would seem tha a lot of celebs beyonce rhianna and jay z all seem to openly worship, from their hand gestures to what they wear etc.

I am fully aware this sounds totally bizarre and I assure you I am not insane, but have a Google and post your feed back. (can't do links as I'm on mobile) :)

Yes I understand that death metal is hard core, it thankfully does not appeal to the majority. Of course, JayZ sells much more, which is why he is far more influential than any death metal artist (if artist is the correct word).

Messages in death metal? Have you heard any death metal? It goes something like this, grrrr,aaargh,oooorgh,aahh,arrrgh,ooh,grrrr.ooorgh,grrr.
How the hell are you supposed to decipher any messages in that,life denying or otherwise?

(if artist is the correct word)

Absolutely! Art is the weapon, baby...

Yes, the message reaches many more people through the likes of Jay Z and Beyonce

'People become suicidal either because they are extremely depressed, otherwise unwell or circumstance overwhelms them, not because of a bloody CD.'

so you don't believe that listening to doom laden music about death and blood affects people's state of mind? Do you think that people who listen to racist skinhead music aren't affected by it? Do you think that it is the same as if they listened to Mozart?

Letthereberock - it could be backwards messages of course; "rrrrg, hgrrrra, hhhaa, hgrrrroooo"

'Absolutely! Art is the weapon, baby...'

yes art is the weapon for political activists like Marxists, who wish to change society through the effect of art on people's minds.

'Messages in death metal? Have you heard any death metal? It goes something like this, grrrr,aaargh,oooorgh,aahh,arrrgh,ooh,grrrr.ooorgh,grrr.
How the hell are you supposed to decipher any messages in that,life denying or otherwise?'

exactly, I've heard as much as I want of it, to know that it is garbage. Garbage in, garbage out, that is how it changes people's minds.

Is nobody worried about the demon infested pritt sticks our poor innocent children will be using?

Not even a little bit?

Lucy - ROFL

'Letthereberock - it could be backwards messages of course; "rrrrg, hgrrrra, hhhaa, hgrrrroooo" '

rrrrg, hgrrrra, hhhaa, hgrrrroooo'
Wasn't that a Rolf Harris number? Does that mean he's also a disciple of Satan? I knew anyone who's always so bloody cheerful couldn't be trusted.

"so you don't believe that listening to doom laden music about death and blood affects people's state of mind? Do you think that people who listen to racist skinhead music aren't affected by it? Do you think that it is the same as if they listened to Mozart?"

The "racist skinhead" music is made and listened to by people that are already racist. The music does not cause the racism. I'm sure there's plenty of immoral people that listen to a bit of classical music.

As for the artistry involved in the creation of death or any other kind of metal, there tends to be a hell of a lot of technical ability involved (particularly for guitarists and drummers), far beyond a lot of mainstream music.

Anyway, what is it you think Satanists do? How are these supposed subliminal messages in these manufactured plastic pop videos supposed to negatively affect humanity, beyond irritating with noise?

'exactly, I've heard as much as I want of it, to know that it is garbage. Garbage in, garbage out, that is how it changes people's minds.'

Then why haven't Black Lace taken over the world? Or have they? I have noticed a suspicious number of people sporting mullets recently..hmmm

Ok, so what do you people think if the identical hand gestures that most celebs do? Signs that are Satan worshipping signs? Do you think its a coincidence? Do you think that Jay z wearing clothing with devils script on them a coincidence? Or beyonces goat items she's fond of wearing? Coincidence? Or are they actually 'peddling' Satan?

Are you loons people actually serious?

Lol, yes the ridiculous hand signals celebs do are all down to satan worshipping.

Same as the daft gun thing chavvy kids to means they're all hardened east coast American gangsters

Loopy

Perhaps the signs are fashionable and used by artist and crowd in a sort of dialogue - Beyonce fans go to Jay Z concert and do same thing - it's just a fashion thing.

You can read anything you want into these 'signs' we are programmed to make 'sense' of nonsensical things, religion is an example.

Surely if a group had evil intent, they would just do the bad thing, rather trying to communicate with bizarre subliminal messages.

so that's why Riahnna sounds like a goat then. Very clever.

I used to think the macarena pretty sinister. Agadoo is pure evil.

The fashion thing. Beyonce made such a thing of being Christian. If I was a Christian and got told the significance of those hand signs I'd be horrified and not do it any more. Also, everyone knows what a goats head symbolises yet she has the ring, the t shirt, everything. So she's not a Christian anymore IMO, or she wouldn't follow those "fashions"

I love mumsnet I'm starting wine now, so anything I may say on this subject tonight is void ok?

Oh and interesting answer norman.

I see Beertrickspotter was also reading rock sound this month

Agree totally fluffy.