MLM Bot Watch 63: shining a light on a devastating, damaging and destructive business model

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Cross post Norma27 ! You can’t be too careful, Narcissists everywhere! WW finds he’s a real magnet for them 🤔

Haha @youokhun
So strange how he is such a magnet for them. Couldn't be him being the narcissist at all!

I imagine that Homeschool and WW have an agreement not to slag each other off on social media, for the sake of their kids (and their ‘brands’

But WW skates close to calling her a narcissist

He’s had rotten luck hasn’t he, being married to three narcissists in a row! 😉

@YouokHun

I just came on to this thread to talk about WW’s Monday word salad *@Spongebobette*. I thought it was interesting in that he’s being more overt in his mentioning of network marketing these days. I sense he’s surviving in a kind of dissonance; the more he says he has life’s answers for the rest of us the more to shit his life goes. It’s actually rather uncomfortable to watch.

Anyhow this is my summary of the insights on offer:

There are narcissists in NWM (no shit Sherlock) and they’re going to get to you if you’re one of the 80% who don’t stand in their power. If you’re one of the 20% who do stand in their power then you won’t fall for the narcissists and then you’ll have the sort of material success NWM offers to the underdog, as long as that underdog is standing in their power. I think that’s what he said.

One thing’s for certain, he looks more and more desperate and when talking about being taken in by a narcissist I got the sense he was talking about recent experience. It’s another occasion when the person flinging around accusations of others being narcissists seems to me to be the most deserving of the label (though not keen on the casual armchair diagnosis of personality disorder full stop, let’s leave that to the psychiatrists not the mindset coaches and saluting snakeoilers).

Until Homeschool met him she was a relatively low level con woman just starting down her journey of thievery, meeting weird willy certainly supercharged her greed and desire to con people left right and centre. They really must be so proud of their brief flash of success.... Now she spouts about how having a Range Rover V8 supercharged (she'd never mention it ) didn't make her happy (probably because you were paying money you couldn't afford to lease it), but bizarrely she endlessly gushed about it when she did have it and was shilling her broke arse life style. Living it big on credit always comes crashing down He's a scumbag and so is she. Seeing those 2 have probably the most visible fall from grace will hopefully be a path followed by all the other shills.

She’s the one who was the upline of the upline who hooked my friend in and therefore the reason I ended up finding these threads

My friend used to share Homeschool’s posts and it must have been when she was at the dizzy heights

😂😂 @YouokHun

The thought of The Sinister Two Ronnies indulging in horizontal saluting disturbs me. I can imagine The non-sinister Two Ronnies doing a sketch called “The Pied Piper’s Pink Pipe” where the virtual village was overrun by rats and bots because the Pied Piper couldn’t get his pipe out of his dungarees quickly enough. He also got caught short for similar reasons, until a rat called Basil shot up his trouser leg, bit his pink pipe and made him cry. The Pied Piper Peed no more and was last seen standing in his power with his legs crossed.

@ToBotOrNotToBot Uber’s tactics are very interesting. The further up the pyramid a bot climbs the view of its arse becomes clear for all to see. It reminds me of the scams which the Amway escapee describes in Merchants of Deception. It’s awful business, built on lies and deceit and one which preys on impossible dreams for those right at the bottom who are desperate enough to get involved.

Unfortunately the likes of top bots who remain in the top tens of their businesses will not fade away - it takes the pyramid to crumble from the bottom before they are severely affected - this they know and have worked out - so they will continue feeding from the bottom

Interesting thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4100491-Life-coaches-it-s-a-scam-isn-t-it

Many years ago, when I was a bot, there was a 'successful' person in the uplines. When the whole thing went tits up he reinvented himself as a life coach. This was a long time ago so it's nothing new really. Just a new scam to replace the old.

Many bots will jump straight into the coaching as a way to gain new recruits, once their incomes start to decline. If you look at those who were doing well a couple of years back - now they all seem to be life coaches!
Maybe they feel they have the necessary skills and experience to coach others through the MLM maze - coming from the gloriously documented Boss babes lifestyles they possess!

PhD bot is still pedalling her coaching (not that I really get what she is offering but that seems par for the course for 'coaches'). Apparently it's ok for her to want lots of money because she's gold-hearted and fills the cups of others.

What is with 'hearted anyway? I have seen references to heart-led business recently too (generally also in ads offering some sort of coaching). Is it just a way to get people to sign up to courses without thinking through a business plan, cost-benefit etc because that would be sensible heart-led and not aligned with values.

At least PhD is honest she works with MLM bots unlike a lot of Facebook ads where I can't work out who they are targeting or what types of business they think will benefit from their training (except heart led ones of course )

PhD and Broke may be at different ends of the scale in terms of the image they project, but the following two recent quotes demonstrate that they peddle exactly the same damaging reality-denying magical thinking to prevent bots from seeing the truth about their pyramid schemes:

PhD- "You've actually got to believe it before you see it"
Broke- "your imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality"

What a load of ridiculous bollocks.

Nurse has posted a nursery photo of her child, but it features other children she really doesn’t have clue does she. Isn’t her profile open?

Broke has a WhatsApp support group going on for Network Marketers. You can't recruit each other it's to be supportive and share ideas. He's running a zoom training tonight on how to smash the algorithms on FB but then openly admits in his next live that his algorithms are rubbish 😂

He's also back on the CBD MLM the ground floor to penthouse pre-pre-pre launch opportunity Obsydien and his pink drink hasn't been mentioned for over a fortnight now!

I worry about how much she shares photos of her OWN child @funkylittleboatrace but sharing photos the nursery has sent her is ridiculous
Particularly as I expect the nursery tells parents not to share such images

Yawns thatch has mushrooms growing on it. She thinks it's hilarious. This is apparently very bad for a thatch as it shows it is not drying out and may be rotting........

Talking of Yawn....anyone notice the engagement on a lot of her posts dropping.

On some of them it's just her Mum commenting (that must be where Nurse got the idea from to recruit her own Mum to like and comment on her posts)

That thatch does not look healthy. The extent of the moss is pretty bad too. The problem with old houses in general is that if you don't keep on top of the traditional maintenance, you end up with expensive repairs.

I hope Yawn sees a doctor about those mushrooms growing in her thatch rather than relying on The Aloe Company for a cure.😉

My friend lives in a house with a thatched roof - it needs proper maintenance and cleaning by a professional, you don’t ignore it
An expensive job to do a rethatch!

She’d be looking at 30k minimum

Luckily her six figure income will easily cover that

A few days ago Sleaze asked for people's emails to join a new social media platform. About 70 people have duly obliged on a public post.
His followers aren't the sharpest tools in the box are they?

On a plus point he hasn't posted for the couple of days, Wig is definitely on a ban and so is Coco.

Messiah has posted in the private group for TS-Life reps that he's paid out $8m to distributors this year.

He really ought to be careful what he admits to when he quotes figures to anyone with half a brain and a calculator, though..
BusinessforHome (allegedly on the side of NWM) has listed out the top 16 earners this year for TS-Life, who have earned $3m of the $8m paid out. The top 16th person in the whole company got paid just over $60Kpa/$5K per month which is hardly life-changing once you factor in tax.
That leaves $5m for everyone else. There are currently 9,000 members of the private distributors group. Even if you modestly assumed that half of these are active, that means that each person on average has earned $1,111 in a YEAR. Of course we know that the scales are tipped towards those further up the inverted triangle so the people actively losing money in this company month after month is eye-watering.

Castle's DH no longer has DPD as his place of work on his facebook bio.

He's now apparently a Business Owner for the extortionately priced planner business.