MLM Bot Watch 63: shining a light on a devastating, damaging and destructive business model

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Just watched a video by Weird Willy from Monday which made no sense at all, full of buzz words and asides - the man can’t complete a sentence
He seems desperate to get subscribers to his emails (and thereby get them in his ‘funnel’ I suspect)

What's with his weird-arse saluting business ?

I was scrolling through his feed earlier and every time I went past a live there he was saluting.

It’s part of his brand
Yuk

Who’s fucked off Yawn she’s on one tonight.

How? Am blocked?

I just came on to this thread to talk about WW’s Monday word salad @Spongebobette. I thought it was interesting in that he’s being more overt in his mentioning of network marketing these days. I sense he’s surviving in a kind of dissonance; the more he says he has life’s answers for the rest of us the more to shit his life goes. It’s actually rather uncomfortable to watch.

Anyhow this is my summary of the insights on offer:

There are narcissists in NWM (no shit Sherlock) and they’re going to get to you if you’re one of the 80% who don’t stand in their power. If you’re one of the 20% who do stand in their power then you won’t fall for the narcissists and then you’ll have the sort of material success NWM offers to the underdog, as long as that underdog is standing in their power. I think that’s what he said.

One thing’s for certain, he looks more and more desperate and when talking about being taken in by a narcissist I got the sense he was talking about recent experience. It’s another occasion when the person flinging around accusations of others being narcissists seems to me to be the most deserving of the label (though not keen on the casual armchair diagnosis of personality disorder full stop, let’s leave that to the psychiatrists not the mindset coaches and saluting snakeoilers).

Very good précis

Plus you won’t fall for the narcissist’s wily ways if you get my emails and I have a ‘structure’ to help you with that low self esteem you definitely have and which is the reason you are not rich

And his ex is posting about ‘multiple income streams’
I bought her new company was The One?
Or perhaps she means universal credit

Ah, yes, the Bankrupt who is still “not working” and “currently unemployed” is talking about multiple income streams. Taking financial advice from a bankrupt bot is like taking health advice from an overweight, unhealthy bot: nobody in their right mind would do that, would they?

And yet another friend has proudly announced their new biz - Tropic. Sure enough there is an invitation to her group waiting for me. This follows two friends setting up with Body Shop. I've not accepted the group invites but they're coming up on my feed and they're both diligently doing engagement posts followed by selling posts. It's almost like someone is telling them what to do 🤷‍♀️

So easy to spot the pattern isn’t it

Lifestyle post
Question post to get engagement
Business post

Rinse and repeat

I like our dining table and with children it is useful for homework, games and craft but the MN judgement on this thread is very funny

Wrong thread!!!

But yes WW is getting weirder by the day and increasingly frantic. And I can think of better places to go for my multiple income streams than somebody who is bankrupt

I just went looking for mockery of bots' dining tables.

@MLMsuperfan

I just went looking for mockery of bots' dining tables.

Yawn would be the person for that.

Ah I think the dungareed guru did a NLP course at some time in the past and has incorporated it into his ‘structure’

He rambles on about how interesting/ multi faceted/ multi layered everything is

This is him just trying to create a mystique with himself as the guru who can lead us all into the light

Scary stuff I think, he could really influence
someone vulnerable or suggestible

There’s one woman who pops up and comments instantly and constantly on his lives. Hmmm.

It's going to be a very expensive month for Uber buying her downline's bonus cheques to hit her own level 3 cheque to flash all over Facebook. In reality, it is worth her spending £25k+ because once she gets her level 3 the numbers jump up massively and she more than gets the return in her investment. But she makes out it's all done through hard work and genuine business growth. Behind the scenes she runs incentives for the teams of the downline legs that need a cheque. She will say anyone who sells X amount of product this weekend, will get a free success day ticket or more products as a prize. This encourages all her little worker bees to sell more by begging friends and family or worse still they end up buying the products themselves. She then pays for the products but orders them through whichever account needs the Cade credits for chairmans bonus qualifications. It's all just a farce and not achievable for anyone else to replicate. She's done this for years.

And Forever Living turn a blind eye because they need their poster girl

@Spongebobette yes, the one who responds to most of WW’s buzzword strewn ramblings is someone who lost weight at Slimming World but claims that her new found slim and positive persona is due to following the dungareed Pied Piper. She happens to live in the place he has moved to so I did wonder if that was were he would be kicking off his dungarees for a bit of horizontal saluting, as there is a flirtatious quality to their online double act. I think you can only see that double act if you’re in the inner sanctum and sadly I was booted out for having a screen shot of the insolvency register as my burner FB account profile picture.

I assume they are still delivering their insights to an eager crowd of victims. In these videos he says the same sort of incoherent stuff and she nods and smiles like a rabbit in the headlights. They’re a bit like a sinister Two Ronnies.

I hate to think of someone looking for answers, coming across him and then when they can’t decipher his “method” and don’t feel any better despite his “total cure” end up feeling much much worse. Then no doubt he will tell them that their self esteem is evidently much lower than they thought and the only path to take is his special coercive path which will be revealed once they’ve emptied their wallet into the front pocket of his dungarees.

Is this the lady who has the same first name as castle?

Yes

‘Sinister Two Ronnies’ lol

@YouokHun
I was booted out for having a screen shot of the insolvency register as my burner FB account profile picture.

Thanks sponge. They are definitely very close them 2. She will be being blamed for being a narcissist next!

That’s the one @Norma27. I suspect Basil will have to share WW with the one who shares Castle’s name. I get the sense that she’s ticking along as a single parent having made some positive changes in her life. I suspect WW always appears on the horizon when someone is on the up. Then it’s downhill all the way once he’s pointing out all your flaws in a kindly and concerned way, just to protect you from all those narcissists out there!