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MLM Bot Watch 63: shining a light on a devastating, damaging and destructive business model

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GoldenKelpie · 03/10/2020 08:18

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BSintolerant · 28/10/2020 20:59

Oh dear! One of Yawn’s biggest losers has commented on that post. When will Nurse wake up and realise she’s being conned by someone who isn’t as bright as she thinks?

Spongebobette · 28/10/2020 21:01

What did she say?

BSintolerant · 28/10/2020 21:10

She responded to Yawn’s shining post by saying she needed to hear that today. Everyone needs to hear Yawn’s words of wisdom. Guru Yawn is deep like a cesspit.

Spongebobette · 28/10/2020 21:28

Gotta keep the minions denying reality and muting friends and family

ticktock19 · 29/10/2020 14:59

Homeschool has done a live this morning and confirms what we've all been thinking that she's on her own now...and WW is ensconced with Basil.

Twinklelittlestar1 · 29/10/2020 15:12

I recently joined an app 'peanut' to meet other mums locally and was messaged by a woman who was blatantly trying to recruit me into her bodyshop 'amazing work from home job' I have since blocked her but it's sad that this platform is being used to take advantage of vulnerable people

Sforsh49 · 29/10/2020 19:26

Is Castle being paid by Hello Fresh? Her insta story is full of how to order it, how to organise your fridge with it and do on.

I've used HF and liked it, but if she's being paid by them I'll never use it again!!

BangingOn · 29/10/2020 20:03

Homeschool has posted some before and after photos of a bewildered looking woman to show how amazing their collagen is. It’s amazing how the woman’s eyes have changed colour along with her skin, definitely not a sign of a filter being used...

Bluewavescrashing · 29/10/2020 20:04

Castle might be trying to get people to use her HF referral code so she can get credit towards her next box

Of course she doesn't need to blag free food, being so successful and all, but... Oh, wait Grin

BSintolerant · 29/10/2020 20:57

That is indeed an excellent article by TLC. I’m glad it shone a light on deceptive practices, especially those designed to prey on people who want to earn extra cash over Christmas. Whoever designed that business card for “Christmas staff” is a shining example of desperation. It’s disgraceful isn’t it?

Botbrigade · 29/10/2020 21:22

I’ve seen other Forever bits promoting Hello Fresh including the lesser known John Lewis bot. Not the one who is bankrupt, the other one!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 29/10/2020 22:34

Wig & co. are now "setting up a fund to provide a safety net for theNHS whistleblowers" that will be flocking to their cause. What's the bet that Koko's account will be the destination for the donations?

OscarRIP · 29/10/2020 22:36

@ticktock19

Homeschool has done a live this morning and confirms what we've all been thinking that she's on her own now...and WW is ensconced with Basil.
Putting all criticism of her involvement with MLM aside, I am very pleased for her that she has left WW and returned home where she has the loving support of family right on her doorstep. I wish her well.
SSDGM · 29/10/2020 23:19

BBL’s business has a first notice of compulsory strike off looming. She’s also sold all her (fake) designer bags and a load of her furniture.

Up until a few days ago there was no MOT on her Range Rover.

Whoops!

JaniceBattersby · 30/10/2020 00:02

@BSintolerant

That is indeed an excellent article by TLC. I’m glad it shone a light on deceptive practices, especially those designed to prey on people who want to earn extra cash over Christmas. Whoever designed that business card for “Christmas staff” is a shining example of desperation. It’s disgraceful isn’t it?
The ‘Christmas job’ ruse was from our dear friend Yawn. Absolute shocker.
spanfan · 30/10/2020 10:24

So I've gone down the rabbit hole with Wig and Sleaze and their new buddy Koko. 😭😭😭

It's all so muddled. They don't seem to have a plan or fixed goal. I'm sure W and S are only going round the country as they've nowhere else to live? And they're living off donations from people they have terrified.

They were ranting about how many lorries were on the road last night. First point was that lorries are doing deliveries taking away the high street. Then they were feeling sorry for the same drivers who are going to be replaced with driverless cars.

Does anyone have any info on what this is really about? I've tried to find out more about Koko but nothing concrete. Its clear they've latched onto him but I'm wondering if they've been taken in by him or whether they totally know what they're doing.

MrsJamin · 30/10/2020 10:27

A friend of mine has just posted on facebook with #ignite2020 - and it looks like there are loads of them all liking each others' posts. Does anyone know about this? It sounds so MLM-y, everyone being 'so excited' about something to do with travel - which is utterly ridiculous it being 2020 and all. Should I be worried about her?

fromdownwest · 30/10/2020 11:27

I think that Castle does see herself as some influencer of sorts. Outside of her adoring FL fanboys/girls, I can't imagine many people warming to her.

ticktock19 · 30/10/2020 11:29

@spanfan

So I've gone down the rabbit hole with Wig and Sleaze and their new buddy Koko. 😭😭😭

It's all so muddled. They don't seem to have a plan or fixed goal. I'm sure W and S are only going round the country as they've nowhere else to live? And they're living off donations from people they have terrified.

They were ranting about how many lorries were on the road last night. First point was that lorries are doing deliveries taking away the high street. Then they were feeling sorry for the same drivers who are going to be replaced with driverless cars.

Does anyone have any info on what this is really about? I've tried to find out more about Koko but nothing concrete. Its clear they've latched onto him but I'm wondering if they've been taken in by him or whether they totally know what they're doing.

I've gone down the W,S, Coco rabbit hole too but like you I can't find much out aside from that coco's aim is to imprison Boris, Matt Hancock, Chris Witty and Patrick Valance and the heads of Glaxo and AstraZeneca in prison for Genocide. The rest that he spouts is word salad.....the demanding of hydroxychloroquine from your doctors and pharmacists to prevent COVID is outrageous and i report it every time he mentions it. To achieve this then the trio of them are 'fundraising' from the general public to support their mission. Coco seems to have past form for being involved in the fracking protests but there is a lot of bad feeling towards him for running off with funds and colluding with police and handing over fellow protestors names so he could stay safe. There was a comedy live from Blackpool earlier this week where someone from Coco's past harassed him throughout. Thanks to Sacked getting involved in all this conspiracy / QAnon stuff weeks ago then she shared a couple of lives from a young woman who seems to have made a name for herself being an Anti-vaxxer. This young woman and others seem to have been instrumental in setting up a couple of the big marches in London in September but Coco now seems to have fallen out with them and is intent on being head honcho in waking up this country 🙄. There's an interesting Facebook page called 'blocked by coco' (but his real name spelt interestingly) which details some of his fraudulent / not so nice behaviours in the past. I know that none of this is MLM related but I'm fascinated in what W&S have got themselves involved in here and yet again they're managing to get involved with people who could be vulnerable and in setting themselves up with coco could use that to their advantage 😔
Twentytwentyhindsight · 30/10/2020 11:40

@spanfan - it is relatively easy to find dirt on Koko. There is a facebook page devoted to exposing his dodgyness (Blocked by 'the first name of one of Koko's personae').

He serially latches on to campaigns (previously anti-5G and anti-fracking) and blusters his way to some sort of prominence, which he uses to appeal for funds to support whichever cause (without his co-campaigners approval). The money, of course goes straight to him and he then flits to the next issue.

He is a blatant con artist, and there is no way Wig & Sleaze don't know this. I think they are broke and have nowhere else to go but touring the country hanging on to his coattails.

TwinsetAndPearlss · 30/10/2020 12:46

I also think that broke and wig have identified that this is a way to fund their life on the road - which they have anyway.

There is a link with MLM as it is the same mindset- requiring gullible people who will fall for anything and then fleecing them along with an arrogance that everyone else is wrong and they alone have some kind of secret knowledge

ticktock19 · 30/10/2020 13:25

On the blocked by 'coco' page then there's a post from the 22nd October highlighting W&S's activities in the Bitcoin world so whoever is in charge of that page is doing their research into what unsavoury characters they are too

ticktock19 · 30/10/2020 13:26

@TwinsetAndPearlss

I also think that broke and wig have identified that this is a way to fund their life on the road - which they have anyway.

There is a link with MLM as it is the same mindset- requiring gullible people who will fall for anything and then fleecing them along with an arrogance that everyone else is wrong and they alone have some kind of secret knowledge

Brilliantly put
kittykarate · 30/10/2020 15:16

I'm just a bit sad - an instructor where I do riding lessons is doing BOTH Avon and a perfume MLM (Federico M). She isn't highly paid in her job as it's a family business, but can't find a way to express to her that neither are the golden ticket out.

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