MLM Bot Watch 52: The continuing saga

[Jasmin82]

Continuing on from previous threads.
BBC documentary:
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p076n2hg

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It’s a Herbalife bot. “Free” except when he sells them shakes and tries to recruit them. Can this be stopped?

So Yawn thinks you can be with FL until you are 75. Some report in the MSM and think tank states retirement age will have to move to 75.
I think the government are a bit busy dealing with other things at the moment.
I don’t think there is anyway that she has put enough away for retirement. I have worked in pensions and you need quite a large pot for a comfortable retirement.

Oh but Dora, don’t forget ‘resetting your eating habits’ etc etc

Ha. Such rubbish

If more people were gainfully employed or self employed and paid tax rather than losing money in pyramid schemes we wouldn't have to potentially put back the retirement age.

It strikes me that the C9 method of “weight loss” is just like the decision sign up to a product based pyramid scheme: built on short-termism, magical thinking, a quick fix mentality, low frustration tolerance, unrealistic goals and with an ultimately negative outcome.

Just like the decision *to sign up

Yes exactly.
Magical thinking

I'm in hospital at the moment. The lady in the bed opposite is very seriously ill, bed bound, and... a Forever bot. Yesterday she was weighed and had put on a few pounds (not surprising as she's on steroids, not moving, stuffing chocolates down constantly, etc) She immediately started talking about doing a C9 as soon as she got out.

Yawns post about the pension is funny.

She now only works 15 hours a week despite recently saying the opposite.

If you stop trying to recruit for 10 seconds your income drops. Now income is dropping anywhere because there is barely anyone to recruit now.

She is really desperate.

@Galadali I am sorry to hear you are poorly and hope you get well soon.

Can't even stop botting while in hospital is really sad. Has she tried to recruit you yet?

@Galadali sorry you're in hospital. How desperate that the bot on your ward is talking about a c9! I hope she's not trying to recruit patients...

No, she's not recruiting. She apparently only has one customer who buys the aloe Vera off her for £24.50. The bot buys it for £18.50 but she has to pay £6.50 on too for postage. So, in my world it's costing her £1 every month to keep a customer on her books. She does keep going on about how marvellous the aloe is, which is slightly ironic coming from a 50 year old woman with numerous life limiting health issues, and totally immobile from the waist down since June...

Wow that postage is steep!

That's a vulnerable woman right there. I bet whoever recruited her saw £ signs when she found out about her conditions. Definitely an easy target.

Forgot to add she can’t get hands on retirement money as too young.Most pensions you can draw from 55 unless you are on a death sentence.
She needs to research her scheme rules, and check about dependants.
I had to wait till 60 for civil service pension.

You must be wrong, she can retire at any time because she's made so much money and has definitely, 100% been paying a substantial amount into a pension.

She will also get a residual income because nobody who has ever signed up for Forever Living has ever left, it's never ever ever happened. The turnover rate isn't shocking, and they don't need to spend 50 hours a week recruiting in the hope of making ends meet.

She has so much money that she almost broke her leg tripping over a huge pile of money in her hallway that she accidentally didn't know she had.

I wonder how long until Yawn and those at her level have to look for a proper job.

Mortgage bot who was one level down has just done that, others will have and kept it quiet.

Spouses are going back to work on the quiet, Mr Yawn has been working for some time.

Yawn especially reeks of desperation, she is trying every single tactic that used to work at once to try and get sign ups.

The last couple of C9's she had dropped the pretence that huge weight loss would be permanent, but in desperation to get income she's back to saying you can lose huge amounts in a short space of time permanently.

On the FLP UK accounts, new business owners in the year ending December 2017 decreased by 64%.

That's a huge amount, especially given they had decreased the year before by at least 40% I think it was.

Yawn relies on new signups, this is why she is struggling, this is why she will continue to struggle, this is why she doesn't get a cheque.

You can be Ruthless McRuthlessson but if the new signups aren't there, you won't make money. A substantial amount of people now know all about MLM's and are immune to the bullshit.

They can't get a foot in the door when people shut an mlmer down the instant they realise it's an MLM.

I wonder if the anti-mlmers who are responsible for this spend their time with the warm fuzzies?

A couple of years ago someone told me about being approached by a bot and knowing to say no due to the extensive amount I had gone on and on about them. I cried I was so proud of myself.

Some people, some who post here, have done that to probably thousands. That is pretty spectacular.

I wonder if the new business signup drop will be just as spectacular for last year, it will have to slow down at some point just because the numbers of people involvedd will have dropped.

I am looking forward to reading Forever Living’s financial statement and accounts for this last year when they are on Companies House. I think they are due in October.
It’s worth having a look at the last couple of years of their accounts, for context. As @Whiterangey says, the drop in new FBOs is huge.

Does Mr Castle have a job.?
I note that Castle has used the death of a policeman to validate herself
I imagine the anticipation of Nurses draw to be like waiting on the lottery.

Mr Castle posted a pic of a forklift truck a few months ago with a tag like 'new business venture'. He is a personal trainer I think but was added to Castle's FL account a while ago.

I would be extremely embarrassed as a FL FBO to be in that position!

Yawn's pension talk has more holes than a collander. What a load of guff.

We. Need. Evidence. 😂😂😂

Just been reading a thread on another site about this talk of retirement.
Many will have a SHTF moment, if they do not have enough NI credits.
Mr Castles forklift I was expecting something more industrial. My DS is fully trained but many manufacturers are going robotic.
With many students getting GSCEs and A levels think about Mechanical/Electrical engineering as robots can’t repair breakdowns and this costs them money. There is a shortage of Engineers as many retiring and it pays well.

Oh that pension post is just shocking!
She couldn’t retire now- what’s she talking about?! What an idiot!

i'm still searching for yawn, anyone...please?