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'FL / MLM' Thread 3

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Eyespying · 12/08/2015 08:43

Continuing the valuable discussion of 'Forever Living' and other 'MLM/commercial' cults.

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Rudechoob · 07/01/2016 09:27

"I had an amazing, incredible sleep boss babes! Why? Because unlike the boring, modest, hard working, tax paying public- I got to have a lie in with no alarm set! 8 whole mind blowing hours of sleep! I'm defiantly (they can tell the difference between defiantly and definitely) not leaving my awesome bed, I'm working in my beautifully, cosy pj's!! Have a great day huns! #bossbabe #workfromhome #sacktheboss #Imanamazingtwat

WidowWadman · 11/01/2016 18:21

New "business" turned up on my news feed - "Park Lane Jewellery". Is it MLM-bottery too?

sminkypink · 12/01/2016 12:36

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Eyespying · 12/01/2016 12:43

EmpressOfTheVulvaCupcakes Thanks and well spotted.

I've found this document

www.proto-colambassadors.com/pdf/proto-col%20Ambassador%20Opportunity.pdf

It's yet another 'Amway' copy-cat 'Income Opportunity' racket

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Eyespying · 12/01/2016 12:50

Thanks for anticipating the move to this thread dreich.

I was quite thrown for a moment.

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Eyespying · 12/01/2016 12:54

sminkypink It's often difficult to break the truth to people whose own groups have been infiltrated by 'MLM' evangelists, but it's always worth a try.

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Eyespying · 12/01/2016 13:00

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Rudechoob · 12/01/2016 13:00

Has anyone seen the coops latest vid on FB? About being on the force and didn't have this much fun? Making a mockery of the police force. Disgusting parasites. All if them.

Annie65 · 12/01/2016 13:32

Just watched it rude, its all for show. They are very strange people or is it because they are now brain-washed?Confused

Eyespying · 12/01/2016 13:50

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Rudechoob · 12/01/2016 13:54

Brainwashed?!

Urging ppl to leave the police force to join the cult. Should be a crime in itself. It knocks me sick.

darceybussell · 12/01/2016 14:04

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Eyespying · 12/01/2016 14:06

Rudechoob - During the last two years, I have spoken to a very concerned person in the Professional Standards Dept. of the Greater Manchester Police about these serious matters, and to a senior police officer.

In private, they both said essentially what you have just said, but no one from the Greater Manchester police has ever got back to me.

The Greater Manchester police cannot now plead ignorance of the situation.

However, this is a very embarrassing truth for the police to admit to, and senior officers naturally don't want the reputation of the Police Service to be damaged.

Obviously, there are far more important issues at stake here than the reputation of the Police Service.

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Eyespying · 12/01/2016 14:15

darceybussell - Something like this will almost certainly be the real explanation of the Coopers' 'success'. That said, I personally wouldn't rule out anything where 'MLM' racketeering is concerned.

The Coopers are being controlled by Dave O'Connor, and he has links with much more sinister 'MLM/Mindset' racketeers in the USA.

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Eyespying · 12/01/2016 14:32

Remember everyone, in 'FLP' a core-group of adherents (of which the Coopers are currently members) has been gradually dissociated from external reality and reformed into deployable agents and de facto slaves, furthering the hidden criminal objectives of their leaders, completely dependent on a collective paranoid delusion of absolute moral and intellectual supremacy fundamental to the maintenance of their individual self-esteem/identity and related psychological function. It has become impossible for such unquestioning 'FLP' fanatics to see humour in their situation or to feel pity for, or to empathise with, non-adherents. Their minds have been programmed to interpret the manipulation, and/or cheating, and/or dispossession, and/or destruction, of inferior outsiders (particularly, those who challenge their group’s controlling scenario) as perfectly justifiable.

mlmtheamericandreammadenightmare.blogspot.fr/2015/06/forever-living-products-flp-cult-secte.html

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sminkypink · 12/01/2016 14:52

Yep, I've come to that conclusion, they are in so deep, if you challenge them online they simply delete your comments. Delete, delete, delete.
But you can't carry on like that IRL indefinitely can you?

Gimlet1984 · 12/01/2016 14:55

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Eyespying · 12/01/2016 15:19

Gimlet1984 - To 'MLM' adherents, 'MLM' shills are seen very much in the same way that fans see famous actors and actresses. After all, the adherents keep paying to watch the shills to act out their own 'success' fantasies as reality.

Emma Cooper has achieved, promotion because she is more convincing, and more convinced, than the average recruiter. She is bubbly, young, attractive and innocent (and healthy) looking, a wife and mother, reasonably articulate, with a vulnerable child-like quality, etc.

British people also tend to trust people with strong regional British accents; particularly Welsh.

In short, Emma Cooper ticks all the boxes for everything that the 'FLP' bosses want of a shill in the UK.

Emma Cooper currently is living the lie that she is the ordinary human turned superhuman and, unfortunately, some ordinary humans look at her, and see themselves up there on the 'FLP' stage or screen.

The fact that the Cooper's were police officers, makes it unthinkable to many people that they now might be involved in criminal activity. This has been another key-factor in their recruitment success.

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Eyespying · 12/01/2016 15:31

sminkypink - The 'FLP/MLM' fairy story is an ego-building mirror upon which the Coopers are curently dependent. The Coopers are evidently at the stage where they would probably undergo a form of mental breakdown if reality was forced on them and the mirror taken away.

They are in love with a dangerous illusion, and their previous selves have been killed off. The term 'born again' comes to mind.

Another useful comparison to understand the mindset of core 'MLM' cult adherents is to imagine the tearful reaction of infants if dominant adults were to take them on one sde and forcibly tell them that Santa doesn't exist and that everyone they know and love (including their parents) has been lying to them.

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stopfaffing · 12/01/2016 17:05

Wow, Gimlet, look at the MLM companies Wendy has been involved with Shock; ACN and Amway among them.

Gimlet1984 · 12/01/2016 17:22

Yes, she has quite the resume.

Eyespying · 12/01/2016 17:24

stopfaffing and Gimlet1984 - Wendy Smith says:

'We have invested in nearly a dozen independent distribution and network marketing companies and are always looking for new opportunities to invest cash and expertise in new companies that rely on network marketing.'

However, the only company on her resumé that is public traded is 'NuSkin,' so what is this woman actually claiming - that she has committed her own money as an adherent with all these 'MLM' rackets?

Interestingly, Wendy Smith says she's 'invested,' but she doesnt say she has ever made an overall net-profit.

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Gimlet1984 · 12/01/2016 17:41

Tried to find information on her company Wendy Smith Inc but it doesn't seem to exist. Seems a huge waste of talent. She has studied at good university's, she's clearly intelligent, but seems to have spent her life moving from one Mlm to the next. I guess as you have mentioned previously Eye adherents can become so detached that upon realising the Mlm they have given everything to isn't working they grasp at the next opportunity that prevents itself rather than face reality.

Gimlet1984 · 12/01/2016 17:42

Presents*

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