Recurrent MC--Testing and beyond--Part 5 continues here

[LAF77]

Here is the list of us on the thread and where we are in our journey through RMC. Nearly 4,000 posts in a year, so mark your place for the next thread.

Part one Part one

Part two Part two

Part three Part three

Part four Part four

STARTING TESTING
LOLA78: mc1 Dec 07 (6wks), DD Oct 08 (problem free pregnancy and natural birth), mmc2 Nov 10 6wks ERPC at 10wks, mc3 Feb 11 at 7wks - suspected ectopic but mc naturally, mc4 mar 11 at 5wks (started 75mg aspirin from a week before bfp) - hospitalised for excessive bleeding and clots. Now referred for testing at local fertility clinic, we have started having blood tests and am on 5mg folic acid.
SCOOTERCHASTER: DS Oct 08 (managed for SVT heart from 35wks), mc1 Sept 10 (7wks), mc2 Dec 10 (9 wks - hb @ 8wks), mc3 April 11 (7.5 wks, hb day b4 mc).
HAIRYLIGHTS, age 42, MC1 (Jun 10, very low HCG, suspected ectopic, methotrexate), MC 2 (Nov 22 2010, MMC,ERPC, no heart beat at ten weeks, fetus 8 week size), MC3 (MMC - Medical Management, Feb 13 2011, MMC at 7 week scan). Waiting to TTC
PANDA 3MMC, no.1 (embryonic loss - empty sac) 7weeks, no.2 at 12 weeks, no.3 at 8 weeks. Awaiting raft of tests for recurrent MC
CLAIREDELOON Age 38 1st mmc, development stopped approx 5 weeks (2007), 2nd mmc development stopped at approx 6 weeks (2009), 3rd mc development stopped at 9 weeks after seeing hb at 8+3 (2010). Bicornate uterus, starting testing Feb 2011.
NOTSOBARRENBROOK Age 35. 1st mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2009), 2nd mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2010), 3rd mmc @ 11 weeks, development stopped at 6 weeks 3 days (March 2010), 4th mmc @ 5 weeks (August 2010). Possible adenomyosis, awaiting hsg and results of testing from St Mary's.
MILKYWAY2007 Age 28 - DD age 3. 1st MC Oct 2009, 6 weeks. 2nd MMC March 2010, 11 weeks (baby passed away at 7 weeks). 3rd MC July 2010, 6 weeks. 4th MMC 24 Jan 2011, 9 weeks - no amniotic sac, baby measured 7weeks 4 days, no HB, had seen a healthy HB at 7 weeks. Blood clotting, hormone, genetic karyotype and shape and health of uterus checked and all clear. High dose folic acid prescribed.
LUCKYFOR2 Age 32 - DD age 5. DD age 3. 1st MC May 2010 found at 12 week scan passed away at 9 weeks. 2nd MC September 2010 natural at 8 weeks. 3nd MC January 2011 at 16 weeks, saw hb at 13 but no hb at 15.5. All tests have come back clear. Going to take Aspirin and Progesterone in next pregnancy (will be on Promise trial) currently ttc.
IGGI999 - Age 40, 3 year old DS. 3 MC last year, at 6, 8 and 8 weeks. Last two had hb detected. NHS blood tests came back clear, except for presence of antinuclear antibodies. To take aspirin for this. Going to see Shehata in May as think steroids are needed.
CONFU3ED - Age 35 1st MC 1998 14 weeks. DD age 11. 2nd MC July 2009 5.5 weeks. ERPC Twice. No tests. 6 months Clomid 3rd MC January 2010. The foetus sent for testing - came back fine. Been referred to recurrent MC clinic at the hospital for tests, waiting for appointment. Was told I have PCOS through a scan but never diagnosed.

UNDERGOING TREATMENT
HAVINGKITTENS Age 41 - MMC1 Nov 07 8wks (discovered due to bleeding at 10.5wks) ERPC, TOP1 for TS21 Aug 08, TOP2 for TS21 Feb 09, TOP incomplete, ERPC performed, Genetic Counselling & tests confirmed no chromosome problems with us, "just bad luck ", MMC2 Feb 10 5.5wks (seen at 8wk scan, no bleeding), MMC3 May 10 (as MMC2), RMC testing at UCH, no cause found - empirical 75mg asprin & vit D + early & regular scans for next pregnancy, MMC4 No fetal pole seen at 6.5 wks, follow up scan 10 days later, told of MMC, then "Something" spotted so instructed to wait another week before they would allow ERPC, ERPC a week later, waiting for NK Cell test results from Mr S on NHS, taking 75mg Asprin, Vit D, Pregnacare Plus (w/Omega 3), 5mg Folic Acid (been taking since 1st TOP to try & prevent TS21 or similar issues), NK Cells levels almost double what they should be. 25mg Prednisone from ovulation - CD1 or if BFP then 'til 12 wks and then weaned off 'til 14wks plus Progesterone pessaries from BFP - 16wks, Folic Acid, Omega3, Vit D - 12wks, Asprin - 20wks.
CRYSTAL5 Age 38 - DS age 4. 6 m/c 1 at 11 weeks, 5 at 5/6 weeks. Ok blood tests, under Endocrinologist for Hypothyroid
LADYBEE 37, MC1 (5wks), DS (2), MC2 blighted ovum discovered @ 8 wk scan, MC3 natural @ 9 wks following hb seen at 7 1/2 wk. PCOS previously diagnosed, Factor V Leiden heterozygote discovered in recent testing. Treatment with aspirin (from BFP) + clexane started at 6 weeks. MC4 MMC @ 8.1 wks (discovered @ 11 wk scan) following hb seen at 6+6 wks. Consultant suggests aspirin + clexane to start at 4 weeks, plus progesterone pessaries. Management of MC tbc.
DIGITALGIRL Age 32 - DS 2.8 - 4MCs since ttc#2. MC1 Nov2009 @5wks. MC2 Apr2010 @6-7wks. MC3 Oct2010 @7-8wks. MC4 Mar2011 @8wks. All natural, except MC4 managed with ERPC for karyotyping. Clotting tests normal. DH & I genetically normal. On Metformin for mild PCOS, plus 75mg aspirin, Pregnacare Plus & 25mcg VitD3. Diagnosed with high NK Cells (1.25) after MC4. Starting TTC in May with prednisolone from ovulation and will add cyclogest once pg. Under care of Mr S.
PUREEQUEEN Age 34, MC1 (7 weeks Jan 08) MC2 (6 weeks March 08), DS born (prem) 2009, MC3 (9 weeks Oct 10). MC4 Jan 2011. First 2 natural mcs latter 2 mmc/ERPCs. Chromosome test MC4 showed she had a genetic abnormality (cri du chat). Karotyping for me and DH fine but with "increase in length on satellite of short arm 13 and 15" (??) . Also have endo &septate uterus. Now TTC and will take aspirin and progesterone.
LAF77 , Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Apr 10) MC2 (5 weeks Sept 10) MC3 (9 weeks Dec 10). All have been natural mcs and number 1 and 3 were embryonic . No children, First appointment with St. Mary's in April, second round of bloods in May, with results in June.

PREGNANT
MATTSMAMA Aged 41. 1st MMC November 2004. My DS (who I love with all my heart) born 2006. 2nd MMC July 2010. 2 chemical pregnancies September and October 2010. Under Dr Shehata and got BFP on first round of treatment for high thyroid antibodies and high killer cells.
BANANA87 Age 30- 1mmc@7 weeks, DD (2), 1 mmc 6 weeks, 1 mc 7 weeks, Going to try aspirin and progesterone as per consultant. Clotting bloods normal.
MUMMYABROAD Age 36, 1DS (2.9), 1MMC Mar 2010 (@14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis and treatment Nov 2010, Started TTC Jan 2011 BFP on Cycle 2 EDD 4/11/11. Heartbeat seen at 10 weeks.
GLITTERYBITS 1 anembryonic MC (12 weeks), unexplained infertility, 1 round of clomid, currently pg and terrified!
JUSTMEE Age 21, MC1 (7 weeks), MC2 (6weeks), MC3 (5weeks) currently pregnant with 4th pregnancy using clexane injecting 20mg a day
LOVELYBUNCHOFCOCONUTS Age 23, 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks - growth stopped at 7), 1DD born 2008, PCOS diagnosis, bi-cornuate uterus. EDD 03/10/11
LOVEMYSLEEP Age 39, 1 mmc, dd born(now 5), 2nd mc (9wks, 2days), 3rd mc (9wks, 3days) and 4th mc at 5 wks. All tests on NHS came back clear. Currently undergoing treatment with Dr.Shehata for very high natural killer cells - aspirin, progesterone, steroids, omezaprole and one intralipid infusion completed.

GRADUATES WITH BABIES!!
LUNATIC dd1(4) 2 mmc (8 wks) dd2 stillborn (32+5). Seen at St Mary's. clotting problem, pg #5 aspirin 150g daily. Ds1 born 9/2/11 c/s @ 35 wks
STILLFRAZZLED Age 35, DS1 (3.6yo), 1 mc @ 5 weeks Jan 09, 2nd mc @ 9 weeks March 09, DS2 born @ 35+3 on 04/01/11 with Intra Uterine Growth Restriction but currently home and doing well.
MUMATRON Age 28 2 dc then 4mc, 3 @9weeks 1@5weeks, tests showed possible free protein s ishoo. dd2 born 06/01/2011, aspirin, claxane and high dose folic acid through pg.
JULEZBOO Age 29 1 mc @ 14 wks, DS1 (8yo) 4 mc @ 5/6 wks, DS2 (3) 2 mc @7 wks... DS3 (14/01/11 @35 wks) Dx with Factor V Leiden and Septate Uterus. Clexane and Aspirin throughout pregnancy and progesterone with DS3.

Hi Iggi TEG can be done before pg as well as in a pg state. AFAIK, St Marys is the only place that does it.

pebs you should have had a cycle within 9 weeks. I'd definitely talk to your GP. I'm sure something can be done.

thanks girls!
will try to get in to see the gp this week.

i got a bit of tlc last time, i was able to go to epu every two weeks for a scan but didn't realise the benefits of tlc then and stopped going for the extra scans after eight weeks so only had two extra. wish i had kept them up now - not saying it would have changed anything but who knows???

Hi ladies,

I have been directed here for some advice after having my third MC in a row. I was just looking for some advice on potential testing etc. I have had some tests done already after my second MC - karotyping, clotting, thyroid etc which all came back clear - and have been told in no uncertain terms that that is my whack on NHS.

I know there are some further tests - NK cells etc - that I could get privately but I am unsure where to access them as I am based in Central Scotland. I think I would have to travel South for these types of tests so I wonder if anyone has any detail on where/how to contact these clinics and if there are any recommendations anyone is willing to make of a Dr/Clinic who is at least interested. Also, is it horrendously expensive??

My history is: DD aged 4 (easy conception and pregnancy), 1 MC at 11.5 weeks the morning after a perfect scan (needed ERPC), 1 MMC at 10 weeks which had stopped growing at 9 weeks again it seems the day after a perfect scan (needed ERPC) and my most recent MC last week at 6 weeks which seems to be resolving naturally.

I have to admit to being shocked at the total disinterest of my Consultant this time around. No empathy, no sympathy and no advice.

I suppose I am just hoping for some guidance or advice from other ladies who have unfortunately been in similar situations.

Thanks on advance. :-)

Hi Decaff Sorry for the awful experiences you have had with mcs and also treatment from the NHS. I've said it so many times here but we all have needed to become our own doctors to a certain extent. It makes it very time consuming and you often feel like you are on your own, searching for the next answer. Of course you know all this already but I just though I would empathise. I too have come back clear with all the test I have had with NHS (apart from thyroid which I knew about already) and went on to be tested and diagnosed with very high NK cells with Mr Shehata.

I can't help you with anything in Scotland but I hear Professor Quenby is very good in Liverpool if that helps. I know once people are diagnosed with high NK cells treatment seems to work for a lot of them. Unfortunately for me I have just had another mc on the treatment but will be trying again soon. It's a controversial form of treatment as you know and not everyone believes in it! But for many of us it has been worth a go after all other avenues didn't lead anywhere.

Do ask away with any other questions and we will see if we can answer them! I assume you've read Dr Beer's Is Your Body Baby Friendly? It not, that's the first step! xx

Hi Decaff. Sorry you find yourself in this club
A number of people on MINUTE have paid privately to see Lesley Reagan, a similar number to see Hassan Shehata. I've also heard of folk seeing others in London (can't remember names) and Siobhan Quenby who is in the midlands I think. We have a similar history - I have a 4 year old, then 4 mc. I have been to see S, and am on his treatment programme for NK cells - no baby yet though! I too live in Scotland, it has involved 2 visits for me to get tests and results, the train is good but adds another 80-100 onto each trip, more if you stay overnight. Hth - feel free to ask me more.

decaff welcome to the club. sorry you have to join us.

i am just waiting for nhs test results so can't really help with your questions but will be around to chat etc.

iggi what is MINUTE?

i have got a docs appointment on monday to find out what i can do about my missing periods. it will be 10 weeks by then since mc.

hope they can do something for me.

Hi all, just checking in to see how you are all doing.

I feel much better than I was a few weeks ago. I guess that feeling of guilt will never go away, but am feeling much happier than I was.

iggi Hope you're doing well. Will you be trying again soon? Good luck with everything.

freelance Good luck with your appointment with Dr S tomorrow. Hopefully you'll get a new plan of action of what to do next. Really rooting for you.

at everyone! Wishing you all well.

hi everyone

i have been looking on the internet and think the doctor will give me provera tablets for my missing af - anyone had them before?

the side effects sound a bit a nightmare (bad pmt, cramps etc) but hopefully it will reset my cycles. they were regular when i cam off the pill last year but i have only had one af since last august to due to two pregnancies and mc's.

Hi Milkyways, glad you are feeling a bit better. I think it's normal to feel guilt, as long as your head is also aware you have nothing to feel guilty about. We are on our 2nd month of trying again, in 2ww at the mo.
Pebs I'm glad there is something you can take, it does sound dramatic but maybe you would not have any side effects?

i am not really one for getting side effects so i would hope i am ok. just thought i would mention it if anyone else if reading!

i am hoping that the gp will give me the tablets and that they reset my cycle so i am back to normal.

i have been charting for the last couple of weeks but not noticed any temperature changes yet. didn't do it this morning as i am full of a cold and couldn't be bothered! will keep it up though as i would be interesting to see the temp shift after ov.

got a letter today for my first consultants appointment to dicuss test results. it's on 27th sep.

does anyone have any advice for me on what to ask etc. i have had all the usual tests that are done on nhs including postmortem on the baby, karyotyping on me and dh, infections, blood clotting etc.

hoping to learn from all the experience on this thread to get the most out of the appointment.

will ask the graduates for advice as well.

went to gp and they told me to wait for af. they said come back in three months if nothing happens.

he said maybe it;'s my bodies way of giving me a break and if i forget about it, it will come back wtf?

bloody men!

i have got my consultant appointment in two weeks so will mention it to them and see what they say.

i don't really want the hormone tablets to start af, i would rather it came on it's own. i have been temping and the chart said i might have ov'd over the weekend so if my temps stay up af may be on her way - fingers crossed!

Hi pebs that sounds like terrible advice, to go 5 months without a period! Hopefully, you have ovulated and AF will come, but I'm flabbergasted by your doctor's advice.

With respect to your consultant appointment, I'd make a note of the dates of all of your miscarriages, and how many weeks you were. I'd also make a note of your cycles and their lengths. Sometimes you get asked these questions and it is good to have the information at your fingertips.

For me, I would also think about the outcome that you want. If they tell you that they haven't found anything in your results, you should push for a referral to a specialist RMC consultant. I'd push for a referral to a specialist even if they do find something. Try to think about who you would want to see, if Liverpool is the best place for you, then ask to be referred there.

You don't want to leave the room without a plan of action for next steps so you don't have to then wait a month for another appointment. You have to manage your own care, unfortunately.

Just to let you all know, I am 12+5 today, I can scarcely believe it myself. I had my dating scan on Friday and baby seems to be OK, the nuchal measurement was 1.3mm, so that is looking good. I had my booking in appointment with the midwife today too.

Over a year ago, I had my second miscarriage, and things were looking bleak. Don't give up hope, keep fighting to get the best care that you can.

The list hasn't been updated for awhile, so I will do it. I've taken the liberty of putting myself in the pg section and confirming that hairy milky and lucky are pg as they are all past 20 weeks and glittery gave birth a few weeks ago.

STARTING TESTING
LOLA78: mc1 Dec 07 (6wks), DD Oct 08 (problem free pregnancy and natural birth), mmc2 Nov 10 6wks ERPC at 10wks, mc3 Feb 11 at 7wks - suspected ectopic but mc naturally, mc4 mar 11 at 5wks (started 75mg aspirin from a week before bfp) - hospitalised for excessive bleeding and clots. Now referred for testing at local fertility clinic, we have started having blood tests and am on 5mg folic acid.
SCOOTERCHASTER: DS Oct 08 (managed for SVT heart from 35wks), mc1 Sept 10 (7wks), mc2 Dec 10 (9 wks - hb @ 8wks), mc3 April 11 (7.5 wks, hb day b4 mc).
PANDA 3MMC, no.1 (embryonic loss - empty sac) 7weeks, no.2 at 12 weeks, no.3 at 8 weeks. Awaiting raft of tests for recurrent MC
CLAIREDELOON Age 38 1st mmc, development stopped approx 5 weeks (2007), 2nd mmc development stopped at approx 6 weeks (2009), 3rd mc development stopped at 9 weeks after seeing hb at 8+3 (2010). Bicornate uterus, starting testing Feb 2011.
NOTSOBARRENBROOK Age 35. 1st mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2009), 2nd mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2010), 3rd mmc @ 11 weeks, development stopped at 6 weeks 3 days (March 2010), 4th mmc @ 5 weeks (August 2010). Possible adenomyosis, awaiting hsg and results of testing from St Mary's.
CONFU3ED - Age 35 1st MC 1998 14 weeks. DD age 11. 2nd MC July 2009 5.5 weeks. ERPC Twice. No tests. 6 months Clomid 3rd MC January 2010. The foetus sent for testing - came back fine. Been referred to recurrent MC clinic at the hospital for tests, waiting for appointment. Was told I have PCOS through a scan but never diagnosed.
KNITTERNOTTWITTER - Age 34 (DH age 41) DS1 born Aug 2008 (natural conception, easy, happy pregnancy, natural birth 10lb 6oz!) Loss 1: MC1 19 March 2010 - ruptured ectopic and left tube removed. Loss 2: MC2 22 July 2010 - Foetus seen at 5 weeks and HB at 7 weeks, no HB on spotting at 12 weeks, 8 weeks sized foetus found... ERPC 26 July 2010. Loss 3: April 2011 TOP - HB seen at 6 weeks and 9 weeks, large Nuchal measurement and bad bloods at 12 week scan - CVS - confirmed T21 and hydrops, no chromozonal translocation - removed by ERPC 15 April 2011 . Currently TTC and because of the three losses have been referred to St Georges, Tooting, Repeat Miscarriage Clinic - my first appointment is on the 9th of June...
PEBSPOP - Age 31. MC1 Nov 10 @ 11 weeks ERPC, MC2 July 11 @ 20 weeks medically managed labour (was MMC at 16/17 weeks). Currently waiting for test results from local hospital.
ILOVEBLUE - Age 33. MC1 Oct 2010 @ 20 wks (MMC at 17 wks), MC2 Feb 2011 @ 7 wks (natural + complete), MC3 July 2011 @ 9 wks (natural + complete). Appointment with RCMC consultant (Shrewsbury) Sept 1st 2011.

UNDERGOING TREATMENT

HAVINGKITTENS Age 41 - MMC1 Nov 07 8wks (discovered due to bleeding at 10.5wks) ERPC, TOP1 for TS21 Aug 08, TOP2 for TS21 Feb 09, TOP incomplete, ERPC performed, Genetic Counselling & tests confirmed no chromosome problems with us, "just bad luck ", MMC2 Feb 10 5.5wks (seen at 8wk scan, no bleeding), MMC3 May 10 (as MMC2), RMC testing at UCH, no cause found - empirical 75mg asprin & vit D + early & regular scans for next pregnancy, MMC4 No fetal pole seen at 6.5 wks, follow up scan 10 days later, told of MMC, then "Something" spotted so instructed to wait another week before they would allow ERPC, ERPC a week later, waiting for NK Cell test results from Mr S on NHS, taking 75mg Asprin, Vit D, Pregnacare Plus (w/Omega 3), 5mg Folic Acid (been taking since 1st TOP to try & prevent TS21 or similar issues), NK Cells levels almost double what they should be. 25mg Prednisone from ovulation - CD1 or if BFP then 'til 12 wks and then weaned off 'til 14wks plus Progesterone pessaries from BFP - 16wks, Folic Acid, Omega3, Vit D - 12wks, Asprin - 20wks.
CRYSTAL5 Age 38 - DS age 4. 6 m/c 1 at 11 weeks, 5 at 5/6 weeks. Ok blood tests, under Endocrinologist for Hypothyroid
LADYBEE 37, MC1 (5wks), DS (2), MC2 blighted ovum discovered @ 8 wk scan, MC3 natural @ 9 wks following hb seen at 7 1/2 wk. PCOS previously diagnosed, Factor V Leiden heterozygote discovered in recent testing. Treatment with aspirin (from BFP) + clexane started at 6 weeks. MC4 MMC @ 8.1 wks (discovered @ 11 wk scan) following hb seen at 6+6 wks. Consultant suggests aspirin + clexane to start at 4 weeks, plus progesterone pessaries. Management of MC tbc.
DIGITALGIRL Age 32 - DS 2.8 - 4MCs since ttc#2. MC1 Nov2009 @5wks. MC2 Apr2010 @6-7wks. MC3 Oct2010 @7-8wks. MC4 Mar2011 @8wks. All natural, except MC4 managed with ERPC for karyotyping. Clotting tests normal. DH & I genetically normal. On Metformin for mild PCOS, plus 75mg aspirin, Pregnacare Plus & 25mcg VitD3. Diagnosed with high NK Cells (1.25) after MC4. Starting TTC in May with prednisolone from ovulation and will add cyclogest once pg. Under care of Mr S.
PUREEQUEEN Age 34, MC1 (7 weeks Jan 08) MC2 (6 weeks March 08), DS born (prem) 2009, MC3 (9 weeks Oct 10). MC4 Jan 2011. First 2 natural mcs latter 2 mmc/ERPCs. Chromosome test MC4 showed she had a genetic abnormality (cri du chat). Karotyping for me and DH fine but with "increase in length on satellite of short arm 13 and 15" (??) . Also have endo &septate uterus. Now TTC and will take aspirin and progesterone.
IGGI - Age 41, 3 year old DS. 3 MC last year, at 6, 8 and 8 weeks. Last two had hb detected. NHS blood tests came back clear, except for presence of antinuclear antibodies. To take aspirin for this. Tests with Mr Shehata confirmed high natural killer cells - to take progesteron and steroids for this. 4th MC in May, at around 5 1/2 weeks. Waiting a month or so before trying again.

PREGNANT
MATTSMAMA Aged 41. 1st MMC November 2004. My DS (who I love with all my heart) born 2006. 2nd MMC July 2010. 2 chemical pregnancies September and October 2010. Under Dr Shehata and got BFP on first round of treatment for high thyroid antibodies and high killer cells.
BANANA87 Age 30- 1mmc@7 weeks, DD (2), 1 mmc 6 weeks, 1 mc 7 weeks, Going to try aspirin and progesterone as per consultant. Clotting bloods normal.
MUMMYABROAD Age 36, 1DS (2.9), 1MMC Mar 2010 (@14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis and treatment Nov 2010, Started TTC Jan 2011 BFP on Cycle 2 EDD 4/11/11. Heartbeat seen at 10 weeks.
JUSTMEE Age 21, MC1 (7 weeks), MC2 (6weeks), MC3 (5weeks) currently pregnant with 4th pregnancy using clexane injecting 20mg a day EDD 24/09/11
LOVELYBUNCHOFCOCONUTS Age 23, 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks - growth stopped at 7), 1DD born 2008, PCOS diagnosis, bi-cornuate uterus. EDD 01/10/11
LOVEMYSLEEP Age 39, 1 mmc, dd born(now 5), 2nd mc (9wks, 2days), 3rd mc (9wks, 3days) and 4th mc at 5 wks. All tests on NHS came back clear. Currently undergoing treatment with Dr.Shehata for very high natural killer cells - aspirin, progesterone, steroids, omezaprole and one intralipid infusion completed.
HAIRYLIGHTS, age 42, MC1 (Jun 10, very low HCG, suspected ectopic, methotrexate), MC 2 (Nov 22 2010, MMC,ERPC, no heart beat at ten weeks, fetus 8 week size), MC3 (MMC - Medical Management, Feb 13 2011, MMC at 7 week scan). Waiting to TTC.
MILKYWAY2007 Age 28 - DD age 3. 1st MC Oct 2009, 6 weeks. 2nd MMC March 2010, 11 weeks (baby passed away at 7 weeks). 3rd MC July 2010, 6 weeks. 4th MMC 24 Jan 2011, 9 weeks - no amniotic sac, baby measured 7weeks 4 days, no HB, had seen a healthy HB at 7 weeks. Blood clotting, hormone, genetic karyotype and shape and health of uterus checked and all clear. High dose folic acid prescribed.
LUCKYFOR2 Age 32 - DD age 5. DD age 3. 1st MC May 2010 found at 12 week scan passed away at 9 weeks. 2nd MC September 2010 natural at 8 weeks. 3nd MC January 2011 at 16 weeks, saw hb at 13 but no hb at 15.5. All tests have come back clear. Going to take Aspirin and Progesterone in next pregnancy (will be on Promise trial) currently ttc.
LAF77 , Age 34, MC1 (7 weeks Apr 10) MC2 (5 weeks Sept 10) MC3 (9 weeks Dec 10). All have been natural mcs and number 1 and 3 were embryonic . No children, Confirmed high MA levels in TEG, on 150mg daily, also was on PROMISE trial. EDD 21st March 2011

GRADUATES WITH BABIES!!
LUNATIC dd1(4) 2 mmc (8 wks) dd2 stillborn (32+5). Seen at St Mary's. clotting problem, pg #5 aspirin 150g daily. Ds1 born 9/2/11 c/s @ 35 wks
STILLFRAZZLED Age 35, DS1 (3.6yo), 1 mc @ 5 weeks Jan 09, 2nd mc @ 9 weeks March 09, DS2 born @ 35+3 on 04/01/11 with Intra Uterine Growth Restriction but currently home and doing well.
MUMATRON Age 28 2 dc then 4mc, 3 @9weeks 1@5weeks, tests showed possible free protein s ishoo. dd2 born 06/01/2011, aspirin, claxane and high dose folic acid through pg.
JULEZBOO Age 29 1 mc @ 14 wks, DS1 (8yo) 4 mc @ 5/6 wks, DS2 (3) 2 mc @7 wks... DS3 (14/01/11 @35 wks) Dx with Factor V Leiden and Septate Uterus. Clexane and Aspirin throughout pregnancy and progesterone with DS3.
GLITTERYBITS 1 anembryonic MC (12 weeks), unexplained infertility, 1 round of clomid, currently pg and terrified!

thanks LAF. i will make sure i get a plan of action. i was speaking to dh and we have already said we will get a refferal is they don't come back with any results. i would love to go to st marys but will try liverpool first as it will be so much easier for us to get to.

i want them to give me a scan as well as a nurse at epu told me i might have a bicornuate womb. not sure if i do or not but i want a proper diagnosis.

i will see what they think about my missing period. i agree that 5 months if far too long to wait.

i realised that my raised temps over the weekend may have been down to drinking too much alcohol rather than ov. my temp came back down today.

Hello just popping by to see how everyone is. Would you believe I'm 22 weeks pregnant. Just wanted to give back some hope after all the hope I found here. Nit out ofthe woods if course but all is, so far, well :)

Hi Hairylights, that's great news, I'm so pleased for you. :).
Obviously you'll never relax completely after what you've been through, but you've got so far down the road now!
I got a bfp yesterday, quietly freaking out already.

iggi A tentative congratulations from me. I really do hope that everything works out fine this time. Will you be opting for weekly scans for reassurance?

I've reached 24 weeks today - my final milestone I suppose. Feels a bit surreal, and I still don't feel attached enough to imagine holding a baby at the end but anything is possible and each day that passes gives me more hope.

Thanks Milkyways (and a success story is what I need to hear just now!). Hate being back on this road again, but then again I'd be unhappy if I got a bfn and was planning ahead for next month already.. Never mind weekly scans, I'd be happiest if they could put me to sleep and wake me up when it's over, hopefully in 9 months time!

Congratulations Iggi when you are feeling brave enough, feel free to join us us on the freak out thread on the conception page where you will get lots of support xx

Thank you Laf. I am currently lying on my bed convinced the odd feelings in my tummy is another mc and I am only 4 bloody weeks today, it would be better just to get it over with now than endure any more of this.

Big hug iggi the first three months are dreadful, every minute and every hour is filled with worry. However, it isn't uncommon to have cramps in early pg. Did you start with pred from ovulation? xx

iggi, like LAF said, cramps in early pregnancy can just be the uterus stretching. Are you still on Dr S's plan? I really do have my fingers crossed for you. x

Thanks guys, I appreciate your messages. Have been doing things like searching for car insurance tonight, anything to occupy my brain! Yes, I've been on the steroids since ovulation this time.
You'd think I'd be used to this period of waiting/hoping/despairing by now, having been through it so often. If this doesn't work I really don't think I can keep going at ttc, it just poisons the rest of my life. But, I do know from this thread that it can work, maybe even for me!

I think it doesn't matter how many times you go through it - it's always just as hard. I remember the blissful ignorance I had when I was pregnant with DD - didn't even have a 12 week scan as I thought it wasn't important!

Have you thought about counselling? I know it's not for everyone, but for me it's helped get things into perspective about my life. I think I would have spiralled into depression if I hadn't opened up and talked to someone about my mc's.

I think keeping your mind occupied with other things is a good idea. As long as you have more than 3 years on your "no claims" I am sure looking for insurance will be ok!