IVF/FET May/June 2022

[Coops0406]

Hi,

I'm just starting this thread as i've kept joining previous ones in hope that I would be at the same time but got left behind with the ups and downs of ivf.
After 3 cycles, 2 failed fresh transfers, PGT-A testing to give us 3 euploid embryos and just now getting our results from the ALICE/EMMA/ERA tests, I am now finally in a position to hopefully start FET on my next cycle with a transfer likely to be end of May or early June!! 😍. Would love to have people to chat to who are following a similar timeline.

@HJen22 I don't know how the NHS funding works as I know it's different everywhere but the private company we used for our package said if cancelled before EC that it wouldn't count as a cycle.
I just saw this online too.

@Reefy thank you! I'd hope then that it wouldn't count but I was lucky in that they didn't count the last. Well I say lucky but didn't make it to transfer. I'd just really hoped to have gotten further this time, and now it's likely we won't get as far. Not all hope is lost until they tell me it's the end of the road with them but it's hard to stay optimistic x

@HJen22 of Course it is. I found it so overwhelming when I had to look into paying for it. Actually I posted on my IG today about it as to let people know abjure Access Fertility as not everyone has heard of them but they do some good package deals.

Hi everyone

I had my ET on Monday and was wondering if anyone else was on their 2WW?

its only been 2 days but already driving me insane googling every symptom or twinge I get.

would be great to hear your feeling and symptoms ❤️

Sorry a bit late to the party but I have been lurking! What a rollercoaster we have been on!

@Frostie84 I also had ET on Monday. Had my collection on Friday and had a fresh transfer. I’m trying not to think about it to much! Just little twinges at the moment.

how have you found the experience?

@popcornbella thanks for replying . This is my first time on a forum always read them but never join. So I got brave and though I’d go for it 😊

Aww how exciting. Is this your first cycle? Was you okay after your EC? It’s such a long process the fresh cycle all the scans and blood test.

I had a FET, we was lucky enough to have a little boy Jan 2019 and still had 2 frozen. The Frozen cycle is much easier but forgot how nerve wracking the 2ww is 😬

I have had lots of twinges especially on my left hand side and am struggling to get sleep at night since the ET. Think my mind is working overtime.

when is your test date?

@HJen22 so sorry to read your update :(.
As the last cycle didn't count even if this one does- surely you get your second one- with a different protocol?

Try to stay positive and hopefully the next scan will show better results. I didn't know about the 3 egg rule. Seems silly if there's 2 good ones there to to take them.

Hope your ok- and I would have been the same and cried. I'm already upset at the thought of this cycle not working and I've not even started.

X

@Frostie84 yes this is our first cycle. We are currently having our NHS rounds. We get two here. So fingers crossed for this time… did not enjoy the injections at all lol.

I don’t remember anything about the egg collection but I was very sick after it, my body does not like sedation! We only got two eggs and had ICSI done on both. They called the next day to say one had deformed but the other one was doing well. Continued to do well over the weekend so transfer was Monday…. Was on pins! None to freeze this time.

I test on the 20th? How about you? Will you test early? I’m not going to, it’ll be hard though! Congratulations on your little boy! My twinges seem to be more on my right side. But I don’t know if that’s not anything as I felt it went in more the left side lol.

@popcornbella our first cycle was through the NHS at st Mary’s in Manchester but paying this time for the frozen cycle. They have been fantastic each time.

thats great news I wish you the best of luck and will have everything crossed for you.

i didn’t mind the injections to be honest, just sometimes the odd couple were really stingy …… I absolutely hate the pessaries.

they told me to test on the 19th and no I won’t test early even either though I would like too and see so many ladies on these forums testing daily and getting a faint line that gets darker and darker. It’s does make me tempted. Strange how different clinics tell you to test at different times to test.

i have no twinges this morning , feels like my period is going to start praying I doesn’t.

How you feeling today? Are you still twinging?

@Frostie84 @popcornbella I had ET on Monday too! I had a day 3 transfer as only 1 of my 6 mature eggs fertilised. It wasn't the best quality but it's an embryo. This is my 4th cycle

Hi ladies, I was on these boards a couple of months ago for my first 2 cycles, but needed a bit of a break from it all, and have just started lurking again!! Gréât to see some familiar names and I’m still so impressed by all of you who manage to stay so positive in the face of all these ups and downs 🤩 If karma is really a thing, we’re all getting gorgeous little babies at the end of this!!

i had fresh cycles in Jan and march, BFNs and nothing to freeze. I started a duo-stim freeze all cycle a month ago and am about to have my second EC on Saturday… I don’t see it mentioned much here so thought I should share in case anyones curious about the difference I’ve found… (it’s 2 EC in the same cycle)

1. because I’m already the dreaded 4-0, I love the speed and efficiency of doing it this way… feels like much less waiting and time wasting
2. psychologically, fab! First cycle, the pressure is off since you know you’ll have a second go straight away… second cycle same, since you already had one batch!
3. freeze all seems magical after the horror of utrogestan (progesterone pessaries), I’m just feeling much more normal and rational and less PMS-y. The downside is that the poor quality ones have no chance; at my clinic they only freeze good quality blasts
4. worth changing drugs! I had Menopur my first 2 cycles (6 eggs/4 mature; 9 eggs/3 mature), changed to Pergoveris and had 12 eggs/10 mature on my first EC!!
5. statistics are rubbish… the second round of duostim is supposed to produce more eggs than the first, after my bumper crop 2 weeks ago, it looks like I’ll only have 2 decent eggs on Saturday 🤦🏻‍♀️ Just confirms to me that it’s all random luck 😂 (to the ladies cancelled for too few eggs, im so sorry! This would have been me this round, except as we’re private, she gave me the choice and as I’d already spent so bloody much on the drugs, it’s a no brainer!)
6. i had as many blasts from 10 mature eggs as I had from 4 mature eggs on my first go!! In my case, no matter the protocol or number of follicles, it seems like one good one per cycle is a good outcome 🤷🏻‍♀️
7. still hoping that it’s only a matter of time until we find “the” good one….

Sending you all good vibes, and wishing we can all get to the stage where we’re past all this and just living our best lives again one way or another!!

@Reefy wow good luck! How are you feeling? When are you testing? I keep telling myself it only takes the one!

@Frostie84 yes I hate the pessaries to lol. I’m such a baby with needles but DH did them all for me. I also had to have clexane and it was so stingy. Monday I had a lot of period pains but not had any for a few days now. According to my app I am due on tomorrow. No twinges today, sometimes it feels like someone is pooking little pins about in there lol.

I wish you both the best of luck to! Does many people know what’s going on with you guys? Or you keeping it private?

@HJen22 i just thought - a very last resort would be to convert this cycle to an IUI, wouldn’t it?

Hi @Reefy how are you feeling since your transfer? Like @popcornbella said it only takes one. I wish you the best of luck 🤞

@popcornbella I am due on anytime now, so scared every time I go to the toilet incase I see any blood 🫣 but luckily none up to now.

I’m really open about my IVF to my family and friends. They are so supportive and interested in my journey which is lovely to have people to talk to about it but joined the forum because unless you’ve actually been trough IVF Its hard for them to know exactly how I’m feeling unlike you ladies 🥰

how about you? Have you let people know or kept it private

@Dobcaty I've just seen your post. I'm so sorry, sending you big hugs 🥰

@LT103 what a turnaround! I can't believe how up and down it has been! I wonder if the nurses had just waited and not said anything about levels whether it may have been slighting easier for you to get to this point! It seems like such a stressful time!!

@HJen22 I'm so sorry the scan wasn't as you'd hoped. When is the next one? I really hope that 3rd one gets there. My scans have never been that great during stims but sometimes after trigger those 36 hours can really work some magic, I really hope you get the 3 for EC 🤞🏾

@Reefy how are you doing? When is OTD?

@FlyOnTheWall89 sounds like you have had a good appointment and they have been thorough with you.

@Babydust2u how come your EC been cancelled, we're there not enough follicles at the right size?I'm curious to see why they think upping your dose to 225 will give you OHSS?
That's crap that you either pay for the scans or that's one of your cycles done!! I'd be fuming!!
It is ridiculously expensive! For us it's been the meds and pgta and womb biopsy that has cost nearly as much as the ivf charges! We're over the £20k mark now and there's only so much you can spend! It's so annoying when we only got one cycle on the nhs which was useless too!

@EmzieMurf1987 it's so hard to know what to think! My guess is they want to encourage the smaller ones to grow but don't want to sacrifice the good size follicles by them growing a lot more 🤷🏾‍♀️ it's a bit of a balance to get as many within the right size

@BlueSilver23 what are your plans now?

@Frostie84 @popcornbella congrats on being PUPO, I hope the 2WW goes well for you 😊

@LuckyNovember how are you doing? I hope not too bad after the duo stim! Only a couple of days until ET! So with the duo stim do they get frozen at day 5 if they make it? My clinic again only do the day 5 thing, I don't know if that is because I was doing the PGT-A so they have to make it to day 5 and be an expanded blast.

AF arrived this morning! I fell asleep on the sofa at 8.30pm last night, dragged myself to bed and got rudely awoken by horrific cramps at 5am! I was in such deep sleep all night though so I must have needed it!
I'm managing to work from home a bit and today I'm off to babysit my colleague's baby for a few hours (all arranged before I even knew about transfer so I didn't want to let them down by saying no this week). And tomorrow is Ed Sheeran. So managing to keep myself busy and not think about it too much. I don't want to waste my days away wallowing about it as I can't change it now. Easier said than done but keeping busy is helping!

I'm sorry if I've missed anyone on here, there!/ been a lot to catch up on!!

@Frostie84 @popcornbella yes I know I'm hoping it's my lucky one!

@Coops0406 yes I'm
Feeing absolutely fine trying not to think about it

My OTD is 16th June & I won't test early

I had my FET day 3 embryo transfer on Friday 3rd it’s now 9th June I’ve tested and it’s negative Am I still in or has it not worked

Had my scan today, egg sizes are all over the place but I’m taking the hcg shot tomorrow and having eggs retrieved Sunday.
im not having an embryo transfer this cycle though because they found a polyp which is borderline too close to the uterus, so they want to take it out as a precaution, and the operation probably won’t be until August. I can’t decide if I’m disappointed or not, I suppose it depends on how many eggs I have retrieved (it’s looking like 3-4 ish, so that’s honestly a bigger concern). They noticed the polyp previously but didn’t do anything about it, so at least now they are taking it seriously.
oh well.

@Rachie205 I think the standard measure is 14dpo, and I think you’re 3+6, only 9dpo so it might still be early 😊 some people get really early results, but normally implantation happens around 7-9dpo and only after that it starts producing HcG, and it needs of a couple of days producing this to reach the amount that can be detected in a home pregnancy test, can be a little bit earlier in a blood test… try again in a couple of days, but you’re not out until OTD 🤞🏻

@Coops0406 Good thanks, except that we’re still on this rollercoaster!!
Sorry about this round, but good luck with the babysitting, it’s just good practice for you I’m sure, and Ed Sheehan sounds like a fab way to keep your spirits up 😊

Yep they only freeze 5 day expanded blasts of “good” quality and higher, so I know I’ve lost a couple of Cs and an early blast that could have been transferred on a fresh cycle, which is a bit frustrating; but so was transferring three like that at the start of the year only for BFNs 🤷🏻‍♀️

i read a comment on here recently where someone said; just prepare to have ivf as part of your life for a year or two and it will be easier… I think she’s right!!

@SamTTC so were a bit aligned; my EC is Saturday, I have a depressingly low number of eggs predicted, and will freeze any that make it to day 5!! I think its a good thing… the embryos won’t age while you’re waiting for transfer, and this time next week all the drugs will be out of your system and you’ll have a chance to get back in balance before the transfer 😊 Good luck for Sunday!!

@LuckyNovember thanks good luck to you as well!! Are you taking the trigger tomorrow night then?
I’m not so sad about the all freeze - mostly about the low number of eggs, as the fewer blasts they get the less chance that the clinic will see me as anything other than unlucky when they don’t implant!! Still super happy that if I do get any embryos frozen this round they will be “young”, as the polyp surgery might mean a 3-4 month wait before I can have a transfer 🤯

@HJen22 I'm so sorry it's so crap isn't it.. don't loose hope they might let you stim extra 2days to let your follicles catch up that's what they don't with me but on my 3rd scan the follicles aren't where they wanted them to be.. sending you lots of hugs.. remind me again what clinic you are with? With my clinic - care fertility on their website it states you get 3 rounds of ivf under NHS and im sure if a person didnt go ahead with egg collection it wouldnt be classed as a cycle.. best thing would be on Friday to ask them would this count as a cycle worst case scenario.. I really hope and pray your tomorrow scan is where the clinic want you to be and you get your date for EC x

@BlueSilver23 thanks I felt sorry for myself yesterday and I've just got my head around the heartache and now focusing on my follow up app on 22nd June x

@EmzieMurf1987 thank you so much honestly we put our bodies through so much and it's so draining mentally I'm just now focused on my follow up app in 2weeks time.. that's amazing you've got really good follicles and they probably changed the dose to let the others catch up so they can get the best follicles good luck for your scan tomorrow x

@LT103 that's amazing news he or she is a real fighter sending you lots of baby dust let us know how you get on with your scan next fri x

@Reefy thank you I'm just focusing myself on my follow up appointment.. how are you feeling not long till test date now! x

@Dobcaty I know tell me about it it's absolutely crazy! That's the clinic's cancellation fee if cycle got canceled before egg collection x

@Coops0406 yeah we didnt have enough follicles at the right size they said if they up the does I'm higher risk of ohss due to my amh being so high tell me about it no one really says how expensive and draining ivf is till we actually go through it.. I'm so sorry I honestly pray next cycle you get your baby sending you lots of hugs ❤️ so jell your going to go tomorrow to watch Ed Sheran hope you have lots of fun x

@popcornbella @Frostie84 congrats on your ET sending you lots of baby dust hope your both doing well x

@Rachie205 when is your official test date? Please don't loose hope some people test early and its negative but on their test date its positive

@SamTTC @LuckyNovember good luck with both of your egg collection this weekend hope you both get lots and lots of good follicles x

@Babydust2u I have the blood test on Wednesday but told me to wait till 2 days later if I decide to do the pregnancy test but I’m impatient and decided to test and nothing

Hi @LuckyNovember i remember you from before. Glad everything is going well! My friend is doing duostim out in Spain but not heard much about it other than that. How interesting!!

@Coops0406 i just keep thinking most “normal” people wouldn’t even have been to doctors yet and I’ve had 4 bloods and 2 weeks of stress 😩. Still crampy and sore but been like this for a week now. I just want to know either way!!

@HJen22 i was talking to a friend and her last nhs round def went ahead with 2 follicles but didn’t get any more beyond that because of the 3 egg rule. But they didn’t cancel her round. I’d def ask! Or if they cancel it does it mean it doesn’t count and you’ll get another?

@Rachie205 im not a good example given what I’m going through just now but I didn’t test positive til OTD. I’d def say don’t test early. It doesn’t help and just caused me so much stress!!

@SamTTC thats really interesting as they found a cervical polyp on me at time of FET. Obv still went ahead as I was on table at time but it hadn’t been found before. I spot a lot between periods and now wondering if this is cause. Can’t remove it now I’ve had transfer but I don’t know what they’ll do if this one doesn’t work. Now I’m wondering if it’s been blocking and is the cause of our infertility?