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CRGH vs Lister vs The Evewell

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user1475505106 · 24/10/2020 12:02

Any experiences on which one to choose?

I rushed into a really cheap and inexperienced clinic for first round which failed.

I have booked initial consultations with all of these next week.

Any advice would be appreciated x

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user1475505106 · 27/10/2020 14:06

@ivftake1 my little one is 4. I wasn't planning a huge age gap either but like you say here we are!

I agree it is horrible. When i go to school pick up I see mums with pushchairs and babies and that doesn't bother me, but my little one keeps asking mummy is there a baby in your tummy and that breaks my heart. Its also my motivation though and I will do anything to get him his sibling hopefully. He would be an amazing big brother!

Let us know how you get along with your cycle. Its nice to share it all with people going through the same!

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ivfcycle3 · 27/10/2020 16:27

Watching the thread :)

user1475505106 · 28/10/2020 10:35

@ivftake1 I remember you saying you were with Access fertility which is what we are considering too.

Did you have to pay any extra on top of access fertility payment?

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ivftake1 · 28/10/2020 10:59

[quote user1475505106]@ivftake1 I remember you saying you were with Access fertility which is what we are considering too.

Did you have to pay any extra on top of access fertility payment?[/quote]
Yes, medication is definitely not included. Mine was £1500. I'm not sure what else will be charged separately but I haven't had an invoice yet. Hope it's all sorted!

user1475505106 · 29/10/2020 17:50

Just updating the thread.

The evewell was incredible. For the first time I felt listened too. The doctor asked all the right questions. He had previously read my notes, he mentioned my sons name and asked about him. He had found a discrepancy in my bloods (no one has picked that up) and he gave me a prescription for medication.

He did not force IVF. He was honest and so knowledgeable. Answered all my questions even if i asked them twice. He explained my options. I feel fertile after just visiting the clinic! I could also burst into tears as he was so patient with me, and explained things very well so I didn't feel like just another cog in an IVF production machine.

What a difference!

Just CRGH to go now. Will keep updating!

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ivfcycle3 · 30/10/2020 16:18

@ivftake1 - May I ask if CRGH asked you to do any extra blood tests?
You also mentioned they do close monitoring; can you please give bit more details? Do they do any monitoring after embryo transfer?

ivfcycle3 · 30/10/2020 16:18

@user1475505106 thank you very much for keeping us updated. It's very helpful

ivftake1 · 30/10/2020 17:19

[quote ivfcycle3]@ivftake1 - May I ask if CRGH asked you to do any extra blood tests?
You also mentioned they do close monitoring; can you please give bit more details? Do they do any monitoring after embryo transfer?[/quote]
Sure, what do you mean by extra?

I can tell you exactly how my cycle just went. Will be different for everyone according to the nurses but I shall tell you anyway!

I'm 34, 1 child c section delivery, question mark over both tubes being blocked, consultant not convinced they are. Trying naturally for maybe 15 months, one failed round of IUI. Husband's sperm analysis normal, perhaps a touch low here and there. Sperm DNA frag test was normal.

Prep month Norethisterone for 12 days

Then
CD3 baseline scan
CD6 scan and BT
CD8 scan and BT
CD10 scan and BT

CD12 egg collection

ET 5 days later with a blood test
BT results were all normal so no more monitoring as everything is fine (lining etc)

I would imagine if there was an anomaly with the BT or lining more monitoring would have been done

ivftake1 · 30/10/2020 17:23

@user1475505106 excellent news about the evewell!

Likeafriendivealwaysknown · 30/10/2020 20:09

@ivftake1

that’s the standard level of monitoring - I’m on my third clinic unfortunately and all have done those scans and bloods on those days (roughly)
I think ARGC are the only ones who do close monitoring and monitor after embryo transfer if that’s what you are looking for @ivfcycle3

ivftake1 · 30/10/2020 20:26

My friend was with crgh and had a lot more monitoring as a more complicated case. Hence me saying it's different for everyone thrrr

ivftake1 · 30/10/2020 20:30

I also had a scan and BT on CD11 which I missed out.

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Likeafriendivealwaysknown · 30/10/2020 20:31

Yes if you are a difficult case any clinic should give you more monitoring. ARGC are the only clinic I’ve found who closely monitor all women they treat not just the difficult cases.

ivftake1 · 30/10/2020 20:36

@Likeafriendivealwaysknown

Yes if you are a difficult case any clinic should give you more monitoring. ARGC are the only clinic I’ve found who closely monitor all women they treat not just the difficult cases.
How much more closely? I think I'd lose my mind going in everyday for 11 days
Likeafriendivealwaysknown · 30/10/2020 21:03

@ivftake1 ARGC monitor you daily for 1st week of Stims and 2s daily for second week. Then every two days during the TWW

ivfcycle3 · 30/10/2020 21:14

@ivftake1 @Likeafriendivealwaysknown that's a lot more monitoring than both my previous clinics.

With NHS - day 3 baseline scan, day 8, day 11.. no blood tests after the stims started.

Private - day 4, 6, 8 with BT... No blood tests during ET

ivftake1 · 31/10/2020 08:02

[quote Likeafriendivealwaysknown]@ivftake1 ARGC monitor you daily for 1st week of Stims and 2s daily for second week. Then every two days during the TWW[/quote]
Jesus that's a lot. When I had IUI with crgh I had monitoring every other day and then it turned into daily for about 4 days I think.

ivftake1 · 31/10/2020 08:03

[quote ivfcycle3]**@ivftake1* @Likeafriendivealwaysknown* that's a lot more monitoring than both my previous clinics.

With NHS - day 3 baseline scan, day 8, day 11.. no blood tests after the stims started.

Private - day 4, 6, 8 with BT... No blood tests during ET[/quote]
This is what I've heard is quite standard

user1475505106 · 05/11/2020 17:44

Update

We decided to go with The Evewell. They were the ones who understood my history best, and I feel like they are giving me a realistic approach. I already ovulate on my own and my husband has normal sperm. My issues are recurring polyps in my uterus, and he identified a hormonal imbalance which could contribute to that.

IVF made me crazy and the emotional toll was unbearable (for my one and only cycle). So my consultant had decided to use super ovulation with IUI for a couple of cycles and if it doesn't work I'll be moving forward with a mild IVF.

I feel more relaxed with this approach. Ky last clinic and the whole experience was awful.

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user1475505106 · 05/11/2020 17:48

He also said as I had concieved naturally and given birth once before IUI would be the first step, as my body has done it once before.

@ivftake1 and @ivfcycle3 and @Likeafriendivealwaysknown how are your cycles going?

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ChaiTea1 · 05/11/2020 18:09

@user1475505106

You’re in good hands! I’m currently 16weeks pregnant and that was the help of The Evewell Wink

I had three failed transfers elsewhere and decided to move clinics. Went to an open day at Evewell and I honestly think it was the best decision. Wishing you all the best!

ivfcycle3 · 05/11/2020 18:32

@ivftake1 glad to hear you are satisfied with Evewell's proposal. We attended an open evening there before lockdown. Found them amazing.

My MC is still going on. This Monday the HCG was 28. So have to go for test again next Monday. Hopefully it's negative then and we can start TTC again.

I have to get loads of bloods done too. Some hormone tests on my next cycle plus some clotting tests. Will get them done after MC

user1475505106 · 05/11/2020 19:46

@ivfcycle3 I'm so sorry to hear its taking so long, but its good you have next steps to follow. What bloods are you going to have?

@ChaiTea1 congratulations that's wonderful!! Do you mind me asking who your previous clinic were?

Which consultant/doctor were you with at evewell?

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ivfcycle3 · 05/11/2020 20:06

@user1475505106 I am so sorry I tagged ivftake1 instead of you in my previous message. My brain and fingers not in sync I guess 😂

Loads of blood test
Fsh, TSH, prolactin, osteradiol, lh, coagulation profile, factor V Leiden, prothrombin gene mutation, lupus anticoagulant, mtfhr, anticardiolipin, karyotype for both partners, protein c activity, free protein antigen, antithrombin III activity

Likeafriendivealwaysknown · 05/11/2020 20:17

Glad you are happy with your decision @user1475505106 it’s great to have a clinic who it feels like actually understand you! When can you get going with treatment?

I’m mid way through Stims with Lister. I’m actually being monitored elsewhere so I haven’t been there yet!!!! But I’m happy with them so far. And like you I feel they have a good grip on my case. I’m doing embryo banking so x3 rounds of egg collection Now, Feb and April. It’s hard as it’s another Christmas with no pregnancy and I don’t have any children. And knowing I also won’t have a baby next year either but it’ll be 2022 at the earliest as I have to do an ERA test after my egg collections in June so transfer would be after that. Given I’ve been trying to conceive since 2017 I can’t believe it’s been so hard and we’ve so far to go. So I’m sad but happy to get going and looking forward to some wine and good food over Christmas.