Oh, Zoe, there is no point trying to ingratiate yourself

[RosaLuxMundi]

Unless you out yourself first. Here are some pretty words about us

Oi, someone start a thread about how soon you can breastfeed after an e then, g'wan

Someone started one this morning...

(Conclusion was about three days, IIRC)

I must admit all these Zoes and Lucys and Jennys who wibble about their lives in the colour supplements rather blur into one for me.

haha - now we know. [panto ]

hmm (flips through enormous mental Rolodex of Grauniad columnists), maybe Catherine Bennett? She's a bit mouthy.

What do we know we know MT? Who ZW is?

I don't mind them (columnists) but do despair at all the 'columnist has baby - first women on planet to experience childbirth, the NHS, newborns, sleepless nights' type phenomena

I tried reading that article but I just couldn't follow it, all those A's, C's and D's.

Do you think she's a regular and wrote it in a needy fit of pique and all the attention Lor Caitlin Moran got last week?

Starter for ten on the most irritating columnist: Polly Vernon.

ugh, must preview. 'At all the attention', obviously.

I'm sure it was another Lucy policywonk. Definitely had kids though...... I can only ever remember Charlotte Moore (who I lurve).

Well the last time we discussed her on here it didn't go so well for her... Maybe she has yet to search for her own name?

I nearly emailed her directly to point out nobody ever answered my question about whether you could smoke dope while breastfeeding. Apart from Jasper (and what happened to Jasper?) who told me helpfully not to drop ash on the baby's head

Yurt1, you're thinking of Mizz Turner, who has perchance it just might be returned.

Was it Lucy Cavendish? She is the type

She is bound to have done a search on her name. All columnists google themselves daily. Tis the first law of the solipsist.

Can I say in defence of, well, me, that one does get commissioned to write about babies. In fact I count among my Greatest Works of Fiction a piece I once wrote about 'the first six weeks' which was all kind of warm and pink and fuzzy and generally, well, a fairy tale

there's no defence MI

I will send it to you, Foxster. You will absolutely roar.

I did start that thread with the best of mischievous intentions

Oh Polly Vernon annoys the blardy life out of me, she used to do that irritating cocktail girl thing in one of the supplements, all 'dahling this is sooo louche'.
She turns up in Grazia now too, mind you I find most of the Grazia columnists immensely irritating too, so she fits right in.

she still does that does our Polly

lol MI.

I hate Polly Vernon too.

Do you reckon the Fiona Mackintosh is on here too.

no, no Janice Turner was around for longer and recently. Bigmama or whoever it was was years ago. Oh I don't know I am totally confused, they all roll into one. Only Charlotte Moore makes any sense to me (and I think she's long gone from the Guardian).

What is William's postition on porn? Anyone know? Liberal, anti, pro???

What's not to like about Zoe Williams? She's funny. And I wanted to embrace her like a long lost sister when I read her column about Melanie Phillips.

It is a law of nature that everybody who talks about their newborns bores the tits off everyone who doesn't also happen to have a newborn at that particular time. So under the circumstances I think her recent columns have been pretty good.

She annoys me because she's so bossy, and doesn't seem to acknowledge that other semi-reasonable people might make different choices from her. Like her article on birth, in which she said that anyone who didn't have an epidural must be 'unutterably stupid' and 'vain' - not for comic effect but because that seems to be what she actually thinks. For that, she can bite me, frankly. I like her on feminism, mostly, but on other things she can irritate me beyond bearing.