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fultime · 18/01/2007 18:38

The reason Shilpa is on CBB is for the money, like all of them, but she is being paid a whopping amount of £400,000, I think I might put up with a bit of arguing and back stabbing for that amount of money, if she thought she was being victimized she would make an official complaint to BB and also she has the option of leaving the house, but of course thats a large amount of money to keep her in isn't it. The tiny amount they have shown of arguing etc is nothing in the amount of hours these people are together, this has to be the worst and most boring CBB ever, so after all this media interest in the 'racist bullying' the viewing has suddenly gone up big time!! Wonder if its all a ploy to get people to watch.........no surely not!! Last year Jodie Marsh was terribly bullied by Michael Barrymore and that freak Pete but there were only a few people who complained, wasn't because she was white was it?? This has all been blown up out of all context by the media and by Indians and Asians, burning effigys?? Oh come on, get a life, this is a 'game' show!! No one has mentioned Jermaine saying that Jades family were 'white trash'...........surely thats a racist comment isn't it???
There are far more important things in this sad World to be complaining about than a game show on TV people. Get Real!!

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yellowrose · 20/01/2007 19:28

edam - what do you mean by STRONGER ? there is no such thing as stronger legislation

magicfarawaytree · 20/01/2007 19:34

Jade and her family are exactly what society has allowed them to be.

yellowrose · 20/01/2007 19:37

well than society must be pretty trash too to allow such people to amass a £4 million fortune

what exactly is jade goody's talent that she must earn so much money ? i think it says a lot about the priorities of so-called society that such idiots are allowed to enter into our lives through the medium of tv

Mercy · 20/01/2007 19:47

Soupdragon, expat has explained that white trash is not a racist term in the USA. It's used by everyone.

I think trailer trash is more to do with class/education etc.

magicfarawaytree · 20/01/2007 19:56

yep trash all the way round here

yellowrose · 20/01/2007 20:06

yes, but isn't TRAILER trash an insult to trailers ? I mean some must be in excellent condition, they are not ALL trash are they ?

expatinscotland · 20/01/2007 20:14

K, if you can stand it, take a listen to some of Eminem's songs.

He has called himself trailer trash many times.

'Two trailer park girls go round the outside, round the outside, round the outside . . .'

A trailer is a caravan.

In the States, you get a lot of 'trailer parks', where people can rent a lot on which to park their caravan to live in, or even rent both the lot and the caravan.

White trash can also be trailer trash, although the two are not mutually exclusive.

But no, no racial overtones to either one of them.

White trash = chav, spide or ned

expatinscotland · 20/01/2007 20:15

A 'double wide' is a large caravan. It's meant to be a moveable house, not something you go camping in.

expatinscotland · 20/01/2007 20:15

A 'hick' is a yokel, who can also be both white trash AND trailer trash.

Blandmum · 20/01/2007 20:16

ah, what we would call a 'static'

Blandmum · 20/01/2007 20:17

expat....what are 'Cooties' often read it in american books, never understood it?????

expatinscotland · 20/01/2007 20:17

cooties are lice.

Blandmum · 20/01/2007 20:17

ahhhhh, now I understand! Thanks for that!

yellowrose · 20/01/2007 20:18

yeh, i had a trailer (caravan) holiday last year down in dorset by the beautiful coastline there - very few trash around which was most pleasing !

expatinscotland · 20/01/2007 20:18

that's it, a static caravan.

you need a lorry to move them, and they go down the motorway w/a sign on the back that reads, 'Oversized' or 'Wide Load'.

So you get all these jokes about people whose arses are a 'wide load'.

edam · 20/01/2007 20:18

Yellow, yes you can have stronger legislation! The laws against selling peerages hadn't been enforced for 80 years until the SNP complained about Tony, for instance. Hardly as strong as the laws against, I dunno, Sunday Trading during that period.

Race relations leglisation is stronger than sex discrimination act as it covers much more ground and specifically bars things that are not covered at all in SDA. And is actually enforced. When's the last time you heard of the police picking someone up for questioning about sexism?

Hillary · 20/01/2007 20:21

I'm getting fed up with this racism malarki, if your white you cant say anthing about anything, I have nothing against black people(anybody who's not my race) but there comes a point! I mean come on we cant have Bar Bar black sheep, we cant have a black board (but we can have a white board), and now we cant have a nativity play at christmas! Whats it all comming to?

I like Jade she's down to earth, everybody's different - some may call her trash but thats discriminating against her background, how would you feel if someone did it to you? You cant help what you are born into! Nobody on this earth has the right to tell someone else they are wrong or stupid, everybody is born into this world the same and everybody leaves it the same, we are all equal!

Don't get me wrong I don't approve of the bullying but as with any natural animal behavour if you put two dominant people/dogs/horses etc.. together they will fight for leadership! BB knew Jade and they knew Shilpa they were both said to be bossy by fellow housemates and they both wanted to be in charge! Jade is the loud one!

yellowrose · 20/01/2007 20:22

there have been quite a few well-known cases of the police picking people up in the City for alleged sexism - some leading to convictions

no i was just interested in your use of the word "stronger" - which doesn't have any kind of legal meaning

DizzyBint · 20/01/2007 20:22

is that because poor race relations often leads to violence, which is a crime in itself so easier to punish. sexism is usually more subtle.

edam · 20/01/2007 20:25

The Racial and Religious Hatred Act, for instance 'applies to words or behaviour and the display, publication, broadcast or distribution of words or behaviour that is likely to stir up religious or racial hatred'.

No legislation exists to ban misogyny, the hatred of women. Police not interested in what Pete Burns did to Jodie Marsh because it's not an issue for them.

Sex Discrimination Act bans discrimination in employment and has been extended in the courts to cover discrimination in the provision of goods and services - bars that won't serve women, for instance. But yelling hateful, gender-based insults at a women in the street is OK, for instance (or at least not covered by a specific piece of legislation) in a way that yelling racist abuse isn't.

lulumama · 20/01/2007 20:25

Hillary.. we are not animals

we are people , capable of conscious thought

and we need to take responsibility for our actions ..and bullying is nasty, racist or otherwise

glad to hear you have nothing against black people

Socci · 20/01/2007 20:26

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yellowrose · 20/01/2007 20:26

hillary - her comments were aimed at an Indian woman, not a black woman

can an Indian from a wealthy background "help" being born into a wealthy Indian family any more than someone who is working class ?

yellowrose · 20/01/2007 20:31

you can be "in charge" in any situation by demonstrating intelligence and calm - you don't have to behave like a bullying bitch (i.e caged animal)

Hillary · 20/01/2007 20:34

No I don't have anything against black people, I have many friends of all cultures one of my best friends is a muslim & we have been friends for 20 years!

We are animals! we have animal instincts, I always beat up the bullies at school as I thought they were nasty peices of work!

Sometimes people say things without realising, my mum said to a chap the other day you shouldn't smoke it stunts your growth! the guy was about 5ft tall but then so is my mum! She didn't realise what she had said until 10 mins later! She wasn't being horrible but it could have appered that way! People should lighten up sometimes! I'm white and white people get remaks that could be taken as racist about but let it fly over our heads! Its like we're in court and everything we say will be taken down and used against us! We don't have it in for black people!