Jeremy Corbyn confronted the Tories with the poverty they're creating at PMQs - and all they could do was laugh

[blacksunday]

The Tories seem to forget that they were the last government - at some point they will have to take responsibility for their handling of the nation

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As Jeremy Corbyn stood for his second PMQs today, the mocking Tory laughs told us everything we need to know about their enduring Bullingdon Club-style politics. Old habits die hard, it seems. But Corbyn opened strongly, with an issue that unites the Labour party: the cuts to working tax credits which penalise the lowest earners, known colloquially as the Tory work penalty.

Again, the Tories laughed at the name ‘Kelly’, so apparently unbelievable do they find the first names of Corbyn’s constituents; they soon fell silent, however, as they heard of her struggle as the mother of a disabled child earning minimum wage in a 40.5-hour-per-week job. Corbyn tackled the bullyboys by pausing at their laughter this time. ‘Some may find this funny,’ he said, as he continued to talk about mass inequality and the housing problem in London. It was a subtle highlight of something glaringly obvious: for millionaires protected by Tory policies, inequality bolstered by unfair taxes and buy-to-let properties really is hilarious.

Cameron’s reply to the work penalty issue was the same old line: apparently a £20-a-week increase in wages will magically solve the problem. This is not true, of course, as Corbyn promptly replied: working families are set to be £1,300 a year worse off as the Conservative government hammers the working and middle classes so as to give to the super rich.

Cameron claimed that Corbyn’s figures on poverty were wrong, but perhaps that is something to do with the fact that the Work and Pensions Secretary fixed the definition of ‘poverty’ recently. You don’t feed and clothe homeless children by changing a definition, and the government should be ashamed. The fact that 50 per cent of wealth is in 1 per cent of hands globally is shambolic, and reports today that inequality is growing in the UK even as our country now has the third most ‘ultra-high net worth individuals’ in the world put paid to Cameron’s claims to have driven opportunity. There could be no bigger proof that his policies continue to squeeze the middle and punish the poor.

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www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-confronted-the-tories-with-the-poverty-theyre-creating-at-pmqs-and-all-they-could-do-a6693756.html

Nice touche, Hackmum . I have noticed that if you click some of the links (who has the time or inclination to click them all?), they don't all necessarily back up the point Isitmebut is trying to make.

Irrelevance. Hameron is up to his piggy eyes in Saudi human rights abuses - also, wasn't there a scandal a few years ago with Hague connected to arms for Syria?

AllThePrettySeahorses .... don't worry about hackitupmum, the poster is more likely to bring up presentation than content and you trying to diss the qualifying links you have no come back on, eh? Lame.

Similarly so is some reference to a totally unsubstantiated school 'member-ship' porkie by a previous donor - with a self confessed "beef" with no proof whatsoever - AND blaming Cameron for Saudi Arabia's religious laws, you are seriously 'reaching'. God knows what the Hague/Syria 'bile' is all about.

The big difference with Corbyn is that there is solid evidence of meetings, photographs and his OWN quotes - and even those within the Labour Party have questioned his loyalties.

Aug 2015; Jeremy Corbyn challenged on Hezbollah 'friends' comment by Labour Friends of Israel chief Joan Ryan
www.ibtimes.co.uk/jeremy-corbyn-challenged-hezbollah-friends-comment-by-labour-friends-israel-chief-joan-ryan-1514948

^The comments come after Corbyn, a veteran parliamentarian, was challenged for describing terror group Hezbollah and Hamas, the Palestinian group which has called for the total annihilation of Israel, his "friends".

"I spoke at a meeting about the Middle East crisis in parliament and there were people there from Hezbollah and I said I welcomed our friends from Hezbollah to have a discussion and a debate, and I said I wanted Hamas to be part of that debate. I have met Hamas in Lebanon and I've met Hezbollah in this country and Lebanon," said Corbyn.

But James Bloodworth, the editor-in-chief of Left Foot Forward and a columnist for IBTimes UK, is unconvinced by Corby's explanation. "I don't think he's given a satisfactory explanation for why he called Hamas and Hezbollah 'friends'. For example, he said that we should talk. But you want talk to them without referring to them as your 'friends' - and why do we need to talk to Hezbollah? It's basically a militia of the Iranian government, it's nothing to do with the peace process in Israel and Palestine. I fail to see why we need to talk to basically a terrorist group."

And what happened to Jewish Ivan Lewis and previously the Labour Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, he was removed by Corbyn via a text message - how curious considering Corbyns 'friends' and the relationship between terrorists in Ireland and those in the Middle East - where back in those good old days they shared training camps etc in the Middle East.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11925052/Jeremy-Corbyn-Sinn-Fein-and-the-IRA-who-pulls-the-Labour-leaders-strings.html

Isitmebut: "What a 'nice' person you are."

Why, thank you. I rather think so too. I don't really think you're in the position to call me long-winded, though, do you?

Tell you what. If you ever learn to express your points in a succinct fashion, abandon your excessive use of bold, italic and underline, and come up with something sensible to say, I'll respond to your arguments.

I'm not holding my breath, though.

Yep, irrelevant opinion pieces again. Hey ho.

Ps not looking at these links because cba and it's obvious what they are but I did look at one recently ish over in politics that purported to be about how awful that note re debt was but was actually educational about the tories leaving notes in the same vein, especially with a quick researchy google. Thay's why I have little faith in your links backing you up - the one I saw didn't.

Does anyone read isitmebut's posts?

Just looking at them makes me feel tired.

I worry that some people do read them. And actually believe them

Hopefully not though.

Oh dear me yesitsyouofcourseitis I already explained why and how gold is at an artificially low price and why you can't buy actual gold at that price. Either I can buy gold futures at £800ish or physical gold at around £1300 per oz. Guess which will buy more when the market crashes.

You neotards have to keep on bailing out your 'economic system' with zero or negative interest rates and increasing subsidies as you can never taper a Ponzi scheme.

I'm with the OP. Poverty is not funny.

Is ISITMEBUT also known as GabbyLoggon or not?

The bottom line is the people spoke and want these changes and I support them . The fact some people don't want them is neither here nor there. We live in a democracy. Vote Labour in 5 years' time if you want a change.

'Is ISITMEBUT also known as GabbyLoggon or not?'

No, GabbyLogon was funny and had a sense of humour. Alas, Isitmebut is not a barrel of laughs.

Numerous threads started with hundreds of post about an alleged Cameron school incident that made him unfit to govern - yet mention the FACTS on Corbyn while an MP in Westminster which questions his credibility to be an MP never mind a party leader and future PM - and the trolls (who will shortly give me examples of their short ‘pearls of wisdom') come out in force, on my presentation, content and even humour. Priceless.

But as we know, there are UK trolls and Russian trolls like the claig of sooooo many far left to far right political supporting conflicts i.e. Farage, Corbyn, Trump, May and squidzin who have both proven to be the latter by refusing to criticise Putin, as its in their contract – as is not having any humour, right claig?.

Inside a Russian Troll House.

Former workers tell how hundreds of bloggers are paid to flood forums and social networks at home and abroad with anti-western and pro-Kremlin comments.
www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house

"The nondescript building has been identified as the headquarters of Russia’s “troll army”, where hundreds of paid bloggers work round the clock to flood Russian internet forums, social networks and the comments sections of western publications with remarks praising the president, Vladimir Putin, and raging at the depravity and injustice of the west."

"They painted a picture of a work environment that was humourless and draconian, with fines for being a few minutes late or not reaching the required number of posts each day. Trolls worked in rooms of about 20 people, each controlled by three editors, who would check posts and impose fines if they found the words had been cut and pasted, or were ideologically deviant."

“First thing in the morning, we’d come in, turn on a proxy server to hide our real location, and then read the technical tasks we had been sent,” he said."

"The most prestigious job in the agency is to be an English-language troll, for which the pay is 65,000 roubles. Last year, the Guardian’s readers’ editor said he believed there was an “orchestrated pro-Kremlin campaign” on the newspaper’s comment boards."

Claig and squidzin ..... show them I am wrong; let me start;

Cameron is a psychotic lump, and posing hairy chest pussy.

Now your turn, repeat after me;

Putin is a psychotic dwarf, and posing shaven chest pussy.

As if you can't repeat that, you have no right to criticise me when YOU are just following your troll house scripts on what Putin/Russia wants.

Russian ambassador lavishes praise on Jeremy Corbyn over foreign policy

In unusual intervention, Russian ambassador to Britain criticises David Cameron and praises Jeremy Corbyn's foreign policy
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11881065/Russian-ambassador-lavishes-praise-on-Jeremy-Corbyn-over-foreign-policy.html

Jeremy Corbyn's victory is a “radical breakthrough in British politics”, Russia has said as it attacked David Cameron for claiming that the new Labour leader is a “threat to national security”.

In a breach of diplomatic protocol, Russia’s ambassador in the UK hailed Mr Corbyn’s election and accused the Tories of a “flagrant” attempt to oppose a “democratic process” by criticising the result of Labour’s leadership election.

Alexander Vladimirovich Yakovenko also praised Mr Corbyn’s opposition to British membership of Nato as well as his repeated pledge to reject any attempt by the Government to endorse a military intervention abroad.

claig ... Isn't that non interfering against what Russia wants in the Ukraine, Syria and god knows where else in the future, also 'elite' Donald Trump's political view - or were you attracted by his comb over?

• Farage the anti EU/Europe, Russia hates, that was also taking more votes from the Cameron he hates than the left leaning Miliband?

• Corbyn the anti Farage politician and throw back to the 1960s and 1970s when the old Soviet Union had such a big influence on the far left?

Which horse and rider is in THIS WEEKS script, folks - apart from anti Tory?

What on earth have your deranged rantings got to do with the OP's thread and the fact that you are not bright enough tio work for Tory HQ and have no sense of humour?

GabbyLogon was funny, Isitmebut is sad.

Just as you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear (even if it is Piers Gaveston), you can't make rhyme nor reason out of an Isitmebut rant. All the underlining and bolding in the world can't make it make sense, it's still a Piers Gaveston's breakfast, a mish-mash of muddled mumbo-jumbo and meaningless mantras straight out of a Piers Gaveston style initiation ceremony manual with a apattering of farmyard filth and foul rants that would make Roy Chubby Brown blush.

claig ... you are squirming and trying to lash out like a rat in a trap.

Why not say Putin is a psychotic dwarf, and posing shaven chest pussy. if not in the T&C's of your job????

And playing your/the Russian long game, your obsession with the next Conservative leader when Conservatives aren't bothered for 4-years at least tells up Putin's next choice of Conservative leader - how bloody obvious is that.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/politics/2481916-Is-Theresa-May-moving-closer-to-wanting-to-leave-the-EU

I think you could use some serious therapy. But only the best minds on the planet will be able to help you and make sense of your problems.

Says the poster formally known as the anti elites, class warrior, PR democracy, for 'the people' claig promoting with numerous posts at the same time Farage, Corbyn, Trump, President Assad and now May - that makes no sense whatsoever UNLESS following Russia/Putins interests - and reading from some daily list of, what do they call it above, "technical tasks".

Squizin .. many your posts have obscenities within e.g. 'the Tories are cts', you should have no problem saying Putin is a psychotic dwarf, and posing shaven chest pussy - where are you?

'But only the best minds on the planet will be able to help you and make sense of your problems.'

I take that back, you may actually be beyond help, it's borderline.

claig .... please tell the board why you cannot say on a post, cut and pasting if need be Putin is a psychotic dwarf, and posing shaven chest pussy ?????

And in return, I would in my democratic home in my democratic country, will say ANY one liner on a post that you want.

I just s roll on past Torybot sounding posts.

...right on to the PROVEN Russianbot ones as will ALWAYS attack a Conservative Party/Administration from every angle - I can see how popular/unbalanced that would be on here - but at least posters now know many opinions here aren't even from people living here.

Which might explain why 'heavily influenced' social media predicts one thing, and those that are REGISTERED IN THE UK TO VOTE, did another.

"Trolls worked in rooms of about 20 people, each controlled by three editors, who would check posts and impose fines if they found the words had been cut and pasted, or were ideologically deviant."

"They painted a picture of a work environment that was humourless and draconian, with fines for being a few minutes late or not reaching the required number of posts each day.^

Living in a fantasy land with paranoid delusions, ranting and raving at the moon, Putin, Chairman Mao, Corbyn, Trump and Farage.

Ignore, back away and smile.

........... FIVE of your posts now and you STILL can't criticise Putin, as it is more than your jobsworth, has your colleague squidzin gone AWAL or trying to get a memo signed off to ONCE be allowed to diss your glorious leader?

Thinking about that, (a cunning trap) are there any North Koreans on here?

""The nondescript building has been identified as the headquarters of Russia’s “troll army”, where hundreds of paid bloggers work round the clock to flood Russian internet forums, social networks and the comments sections of western publications with remarks praising the president, Vladimir Putin, and raging at the depravity and injustice of the west."

*No doubt using words like 'elites', the 'establishment', the 'PPEs', the 'modernizers' etc etc etc.